Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90058 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98848 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 04:34:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 04:34:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.179 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.179 mail-ig0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.179] ([209.85.213.179:37803] helo=mail-ig0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 62/E1-24214-ED74B865 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 23:34:38 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id to18so5628602igc.0 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:34:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=66Xdvq/XX/PaQTzH4AhrpM/S5AZ+aem9ILIWfZcvZ30=; b=0qfq6Y+dPwe+sNUAaga09rw8rwV3rulFR2dDhMK/RuFrC3oMpSmsxx7NIdhZul/fpW ccgLwQD/ANrKmCEMSRqbyq9bad09QBiJTAMOXUNkMxBsV5tolywhwy8mTnbgBXDhpmhd rKV4jbJqT9Pmpiq4or6CTXvyM4BrLvs0f9H5OX+iZvOIGThSdRo6IBb8VMU+A0GnLzF3 qwbd1ZRy9Hjuo8rV/898veNPNHIoqxUSium5bfK40kqfCa29X3pr0gWRP6HT07b3iId/ ame1+DtfB/pHoHG8Dod38oCzCJSxg3xXqD/xLo8RLpA4WygjIFwdfmIVM92u2IYcLS7L amnw== X-Received: by 10.50.134.233 with SMTP id pn9mr1726401igb.71.1451968475722; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:bdf1:d380:a127:8c2d:b62:4cb2? ([2602:306:bdf1:d380:a127:8c2d:b62:4cb2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 4sm687024igz.2.2016.01.04.20.34.34 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:34:35 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 22:34:33 -0600 Cc: Pierre Joye , Bishop Bettini , Michael Cullum , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <6A0F14CB-1D3E-41B3-A60C-149A3F3C6201@gmail.com> References: <568AE803.1080209@gmail.com> <568B0C8E.3080206@eliw.com> <568B1041.1060601@gmail.com> <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> <568B210A.9050103@gmail.com> <10889178-A15C-4B28-85CC-C1E5AB08E952@gmail.com> <58A18521-05EC-4BC3-AD3E-CD446572088A@gmail.com> To: Sara Golemon X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 4, 2016, at 22:31, Sara Golemon wrote: >=20 > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Paul M. Jones = wrote: >> This RFC is not about "respect." It is about a cabal being able to = ban at will, without supervision or oversight, based on their own whims. = The "respect" bit is a velvet glove on an iron fist. >>=20 > There is supervision, there is oversight. > The oversight is this list. Any council issuing temp-bans without > justification will be sanctioned. > I'm quite certain that you, among others, will see to that. If you wouldn't be comfortable with me, and others like me, being the = voting members in the proposed Star Chamber, you should vote against = this. Otherwise, it's just you being certain that only "the = right-thinking kind of people" will be making decisions. Frankly the RFC should be turned down out of hand. Nothing even = remotely resembling it is suitable for a free and open society. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php