Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90055 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94491 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 04:29:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 04:29:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pmjones88@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pmjones88@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.213.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pmjones88@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.173 mail-ig0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.173] ([209.85.213.173:36966] helo=mail-ig0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6C/D0-24214-2964B865 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 23:29:06 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f173.google.com with SMTP id to18so5573382igc.0 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:29:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=hra55WtbjKGHJkLFI/2jp1485skSV9uLbfUBc5Q3QUs=; b=SGeWcdwzyb3MQJDR8jdTPEPjGVhUqH+D/nnnzC1CQR9/7XGoOf4uJl8zPcaaQ+j+bX BhH1wbM3sz/HKDE6UAkb2NgD6vALV+gUrJN6bpXeiot/9ZJVId4g1TwtQVY9i7Z5yDwx xwnAtVupszIsh4Ddw8LIOr+SJC3+6RcxP4zQ7zUXAW3Df20/jyDtmnnyp4EJ0H5VUMVx v8/5S30RD7Afli+vlACki0XzL7eUiLaecbsqLKerjHrpbyvAMWbzDkFb0BkuPXKeePWC XlVxkqOuPNyXqA7b63bnsZdCZgNVPETupfGRoUW0xtCy+Dqi6ate56QHfWCQygxEG9Kw 4INA== X-Received: by 10.50.6.104 with SMTP id z8mr1941513igz.58.1451968143629; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:29:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:bdf1:d380:a127:8c2d:b62:4cb2? ([2602:306:bdf1:d380:a127:8c2d:b62:4cb2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 124sm35596582ioz.10.2016.01.04.20.29.02 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:29:03 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.1 \(3096.5\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 22:29:02 -0600 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <63D5D55E-76A0-4550-97E8-98CC7DE9DDD3@gmail.com> References: <568AE803.1080209@gmail.com> <568B0C8E.3080206@eliw.com> <568B1041.1060601@gmail.com> <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> <568B210A.9050103@gmail.com> To: Michael Cullum X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3096.5) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pmjones88@gmail.com ("Paul M. Jones") > On Jan 4, 2016, at 21:48, Michael Cullum wrote: >=20 > I do apologise for saying offender, it was the wrong word to use = there, but I think the context of the rest of my post made it clear the = meaning was not meant to say that they were automatically guilty = (although at the point in proceedings I was referring to was where their = name had been released to the public and you'd hope that guilt would be = established by that point beyond reasonable doubt, at which point, the = legal terminology does change from accused to offender). >=20 > The exact context there of using the term I was actually saying it was = imperative that the accused has a voice to refute those allegations if = you read on (I'm not sure if you did as you snipped off my email = straight afterwards?). If there's an accusation, then *due process* needs to be applied. If it = rises to the level of needing *due process* then the police should be = involved. There's no need, *none at all*, for a star chamber *or* a mob = to be an amenable authority to salve someone's hurt feelings and ban = someone else, not even in a temporary capacity. --=20 Paul M. Jones pmjones88@gmail.com http://paul-m-jones.com Modernizing Legacy Applications in PHP https://leanpub.com/mlaphp Solving the N+1 Problem in PHP https://leanpub.com/sn1php