Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90051 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87079 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 04:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 04:00:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.193 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.193 mail-ob0-f193.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.193] ([209.85.214.193:33582] helo=mail-ob0-f193.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AF/6D-07292-7CF3B865 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 23:00:07 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f193.google.com with SMTP id wz2so14668379obc.0 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:00:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=wQqiuZ82xOnxymJWhCKjYZFDzKa8NXOncZT3BSab5WQ=; b=iLxx27wmsJe+Yso4gqnrGtgYTLqcUqEjoXzfZeJafraBfeTJ6tcA4FHuOJPkBcarO0 byTmZWKuBj2W5g0mQTXbJzzkWP3I1IO6AI2xSuxVQzc/CS4edfu66xzZYWdvODqjxEO6 Uaf0WygKJ0CwcesE605dI0asTNMVNSZRRdCyUlmFT6Aa0TBJGBYyvVBLyHBmMZlFcrdZ ihtr7rpH+1kcnWM5+f99Oh6y/ko6TrY0gr3z4i16HpC8VFF9rtdOGSdatjz/e75NrhuK g+eVbMqBG84t8Plpaff+MDS8RxjYkNg6EToobrL1owkzGBu8xeiCMrb0gVi6S/9+Poel EQrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.16.198 with SMTP id i6mr66882226oed.19.1451966404758; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.64.136 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Jan 2016 20:00:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <10889178-A15C-4B28-85CC-C1E5AB08E952@gmail.com> References: <568AE803.1080209@gmail.com> <568B0C8E.3080206@eliw.com> <568B1041.1060601@gmail.com> <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> <568B210A.9050103@gmail.com> <10889178-A15C-4B28-85CC-C1E5AB08E952@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 11:00:04 +0700 Message-ID: To: "Paul M. Jones" Cc: Bishop Bettini , Michael Cullum , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Paul M. Jones wrote: > >> On Jan 4, 2016, at 21:22, Bishop Bettini wrote: >> >> Every long standing collaborative system adopts, uses, and sheds rules of conduct to suit its real and perceived challenges. > > Including the one headed by Linus Torvalds, right? (/me rolls eyes) > > I don't know which is worse: that this is being discussed in the first place, or that there are so many willing volunteer speech police around to support it. What is worst is seeing someone using an example of a person referring to abortions, sexual comments related to "stop the breed" and other disgusting things as an example of why we should not have a CoC. That and the fascist comparison makes me wonder a lot about his values. May I suggest you to bring constructive arguments into the game instead? I got what you consider as a limitation of free speech. I think many already explained why it is not about free speech but protection and about confirm and ensure a safe context, given you understand what "safe" means here. Hopefully. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org