Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90041 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65387 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 02:34:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 02:34:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:43595] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 8A/D9-07292-0AB2B865 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 21:34:09 -0500 Received: by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 17632416B9; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 03:34:14 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on km31408.keymachine.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Received: from [192.168.2.34] (ppp-93-104-2-176.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.2.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CAEA8416B7; Tue, 5 Jan 2016 03:34:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <1451961236.323.27.camel@kuechenschabe> To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: Pierre Joye , Eli , PHP internals Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2016 03:33:56 +0100 In-Reply-To: <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> References: <568AE803.1080209@gmail.com> <568B0C8E.3080206@eliw.com> <568B1041.1060601@gmail.com> <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-Q8coWJ10W8LPZLP4WhOu" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) --=-Q8coWJ10W8LPZLP4WhOu Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 17:34 -0800, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > My main issue is with procedures which can have real impact on people > and the atmosphere in the project and have IMHO way too little > safeguards for that as proposed. Of course, as I said, there's not much > need for that procedure either (I stand corrected that there were no > cases, but even 3 cases over 20 years, each of them handled without much > trouble, is not much) - but why create this landmine? It's not like we > have a crisis on our hands that needs drastic measures to handle it. I believe some guidance for new comers might be helpful. But I don't think we need strong laws. My idea would be to publish a list of trusted and respected individuals who can serve as point of contact and can moderate or escalate as needed. Ideally those individuals come from different cultures as I believe most conflicts come from cultural background (i.e. "politeness" vs "directness") and language barrier (English isn't a native language for most of us leading to double interpretation ...) and can be solved with some guidance ... johannes --=-Q8coWJ10W8LPZLP4WhOu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJWiyuYAAoJEH3sTmn8nIPXV6UH/ikXlv+X6YnN9+nnw+usKuud TnJiASZqGsrlk9ub4NF1R9iRBU8+pkGsvuT0EPfsdw6AnBsWl8SjYxgU5LCyHLu9 qTp9waO4ON0U8B6MyGt9w0T9FG2dKrZj9wy2pd7XeiygBiMSlBsqqEHcyTh2C3q8 FZyM4IC7JjXagNnKcighImjCtgVhJ36j+rrWXGqQWkrWinpUc8gT5CUtxYyqKqFm ekTfoJXLL+euztw18MJ+qqiDPUrHK9Of9NasBpSMH23SnLUmlWD6ssZp+8YVClZM erHV7V5pqWgiNsDzlB6L6kOQeI9EVeZ87UlZDUq1ZuNaKPvtHTLJ/H18yEdHdXA= =L6nA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Q8coWJ10W8LPZLP4WhOu--