Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:90034 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46587 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2016 01:34:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2016 01:34:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.44 mail-pa0-f44.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.44] ([209.85.220.44:34078] helo=mail-pa0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A7/57-07292-CAD1B865 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 20:34:37 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id uo6so186309857pac.1 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 17:34:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=qzN3SpwqClM7tMXi2dVbaVt7tgjf7eSnVdqW/xH/RVg=; b=AwdcAQcZFIQEy2sPXrmkbpRz2q69RdYC1m1LddlknmlO/ogc6E27HTfJDvmxgC0rH2 DUz2QQEV7NDi5Aa+WQ7fxQleWcxdwchOABC5bUMUKQt4HneqZRDPJAt8a/ZfJ6AyNjYK nRJSlTZXvafXbxpoiL/9BsKwwKFqQAidjtfb0q/g/ePoc6geRjgWfatb2g3vAhQV6q/E UxdJbeUJh+3tdOSjQ6fxOF+wO/f1Z0qdMikaTbEqHdluxO8XgL9FTTwafhH5keIDdXyP GnzwMQySjsfBdXJYIYHFw5AKkT5KWVgIeHZBgJDQkNXXvMyxoP98/Aa8uAOVq4Pg0wZg OP0A== X-Received: by 10.66.218.170 with SMTP id ph10mr131152819pac.58.1451957673756; Mon, 04 Jan 2016 17:34:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from stas-air.corp.wikimedia.org (tan1.corp.wikimedia.org. [198.73.209.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 3sm79219473pfn.61.2016.01.04.17.34.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 04 Jan 2016 17:34:33 -0800 (PST) To: Pierre Joye References: <568AE803.1080209@gmail.com> <568B0C8E.3080206@eliw.com> <568B1041.1060601@gmail.com> Cc: Eli , PHP internals X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <568B1DA8.3060908@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 17:34:32 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Right, that's one of the parts that need more work and thoughts. My > comment was mainly about the usefulness of a CoC. If we're talking about having a declaration of principles, I am not sure we need elaborate text to say "don't be an ass" but I don't mind having one in case somebody ever need explicit instructions on how exactly not to do that :) I was never very big on legislating common sense, but I agree that it is not a big problem either, and if anybody feels better from it then fine. My main issue is with procedures which can have real impact on people and the atmosphere in the project and have IMHO way too little safeguards for that as proposed. Of course, as I said, there's not much need for that procedure either (I stand corrected that there were no cases, but even 3 cases over 20 years, each of them handled without much trouble, is not much) - but why create this landmine? It's not like we have a crisis on our hands that needs drastic measures to handle it. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com