Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89809 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15842 invoked from network); 14 Dec 2015 23:57:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Dec 2015 23:57:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:35405] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9E/97-51216-9675F665 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2015 18:57:30 -0500 Received: (qmail 5048 invoked by uid 89); 14 Dec 2015 23:57:26 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 5042, pid: 5045, t: 0.0785s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.7?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 14 Dec 2015 23:57:26 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <11.24.55814.5A495665@pb1.pair.com> <566F541B.1090709@gmail.com> Message-ID: <566F5766.3000202@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 23:57:26 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <566F541B.1090709@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.6 life cycle From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 14/12/15 23:43, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > I'm not sure what you mean here by "should be". If you mean "if > everybody dropped everything right now and started only working on > upgrade to PHP 7 then they could make it in 20 months" - yes, it is > reasonably true. But nobody would do that. In fact, in many places base > version is still 5.3. Again, we can talk that people "should" do this > and "should" do that until we're blue in the face, but that's not going > to happen, whatever we talk about. Only one of the two things is going > to happen: > 1. People would run 5.x in 2017 as supported version and get the fixes. > 2. People would run 5.x in 2017 as unsupported version, get no fixes and > suffer from it. From my own perspective, the question is if people actually need to update from PHP5.3 TO 5.6. Processing 5.2 to 5.3 and up to 5.4 is still the sensible upgrade path and it's just as easy THEN upgrading straight to PHP7 so currently I see any debate on 5.6 as academic since so few people are currently 'stuck' with that version? There is little that causes a normal roll over to the next version and the current user base is already on that cycle? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk