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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.6 life cycle
From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=)

On Sun, 2015-12-06 at 15:17 -0800, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> Sufficient for what? It is a hard fact that people still run 5.3
> version. In fact, 2/3 of sites run EOLed versions. You can always say
> they have only themselves to blame, but then I'm not sure what
> "sufficient" means. Unless adoption patterns change drastically, by the
> end of 2017 most people will not be running PHP 7. That's not something
> we can realistically change (unless you have some way of changing those
> patterns we didn't try yet or they change by themselves somehow). Thus,
> our choice lies only in whether we support this majority of users in
> some way or say "you are on your own now, we don't care about you anymore".

People who don't update aren't really relevant for a lifetime
discussion. It doesn't really matter if they don't update to 5.6 or if
they don't update to 7.0. Especially if they don't even update from
5.3.x to 5.3.(x+n).

johannes