Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89722 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69371 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2015 17:54:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2015 17:54:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=oldschooldsl@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=oldschooldsl@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: oldschooldsl@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.52 mail-lf0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.52] ([209.85.215.52:33219] helo=mail-lf0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 07/27-28320-1C7C5665 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 12:54:10 -0500 Received: by lfaz4 with SMTP id z4so146934081lfa.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 09:54:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hbPTUihR8cMAhPAUreyX6w3D4a8kNtUkLg3gaOBkswM=; b=UDgGr4oV3LaVA0r9ZUVYFuSJaoMQALerWjbaOVPeksI9Lc3KK5FZVteAskCIpBaNhq qQFNbEdFa22zRDJiNyCLeHdh3A8phbeou4EECIp+mn0zE3MVxJdkMc30IhK5MUgiraQd rTG5I1mViDnwgOZDC3s9Y7cFtuEbGRd0V0vhklnS7Cmei7lFURqIxnOtck3Ft+rGJyHs 3U6TKeVhy/eA7UGYAoonC8+9SnS3cD8EE5LUxuU0TWGLUl0WxeSNLf6QxcGpwbO8/xZN M6vzXP5S1jZFS5OPptZtvVYT49yMxHtfBBiGwOJmThwOcrBwki+WwvpK7eK4dOTAa/Qe Xk/g== X-Received: by 10.25.213.145 with SMTP id m139mr14751747lfg.150.1449510845858; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 09:54:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.33.68 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 09:53:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5665A087.3040203@lsces.co.uk> References: <11.24.55814.5A495665@pb1.pair.com> <56659949.8080405@gmail.com> <56659ABA.5010708@gmail.com> <5665A087.3040203@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 12:53:45 -0500 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140a2ea10cdfb0526528bde Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.6 life cycle From: oldschooldsl@gmail.com (Adam Howard) --001a1140a2ea10cdfb0526528bde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This is the current official timeline http://php.net/supported-versions.php I personally think it is long enough and would actually suggestion shortening it (2016, not 2017). Extended the timeline would only further influence people not to upgrade, as an excuse that it was still supported. On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:06 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > On 07/12/15 14:42, Rowan Collins wrote: > > Rowan Collins wrote on 07/12/2015 14:35: > >> - On what factors will the decision be based? If the reason to delay > >> the decision is lack of information, what information are we planning > >> to use? Are there metrics we can use to make a more objective decision? > > > > Come to think, this works the other way as well: if we *do* make a > > decision now, are there factors that would allow the question to be > > reopened? Again, to have any trust in the announced date, people would > > need to know what these were - if the decision is "probably August > > 2017", then that would be no decision at all. > > At the current time August 2017 is more than reasonable. That some > distributions produce their own LTS versions, which for example PHP5.4 > has become, just passes the onus to the publisher to act if some serious > security problem arises post that date. The PHP developers have already > passed the buck, but I have no doubt if something serious came up which > needed help from PHP developers they would help out? Certainly my PHP5.4 > distribution still sees security related updates even today. > > The point here is that people reliant on older versions of PHP are not > doing anything wrong, but rather that the official support for that may > not be via PHP direct. I doubt that PHP5.6 will be an LTS candidate in > any case, but we need a version of PHP7.0 well bedded in before it can > be leap frogged and that will hopefully be the situation by August 2016. > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --001a1140a2ea10cdfb0526528bde--