Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89717 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52216 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2015 15:52:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2015 15:52:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.170 mail-lb0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.170] ([209.85.217.170:34091] helo=mail-lb0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F2/B4-28320-23BA5665 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 10:52:18 -0500 Received: by lbbcs9 with SMTP id cs9so67606281lbb.1 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:52:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=2eFQyeMqekTuAI0BNDNcXUdl4TKOAgkmY/1h8EY4Bgg=; b=y/iOA1UG/K5gIBHhOyGltHZwK4evy69zF5omxpFu3MN5xLu9Icx3IUZxLZpxyBTjio l6LlZSbjsWBZJGrCI+IyoY+Am3f6VmZQU76GwP3iJmSb90hdBVwPsiIn3XxSbQ21nYOX Jo/czdY4ft7Yt9K+SKKXKTmisnKdGtBq5kDMofkJrTuAldQNtqotbZW2XrwrMbZlKyOa M27vBZvGdFVAPEtMZIu7KwQSQEfRWYbkQcdyREAQh1+bCF4LYKishLPi7cqOFsIJRBMt kmRlOByDJaFrnUIHVyPoKgyrGXqrIFdJlzTmhJmMoSPkRpcwj0oQ/+xP0Y5sWzvrEnfg mUKw== X-Received: by 10.112.130.231 with SMTP id oh7mr14129772lbb.88.1449503535326; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 07:52:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.140.66 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Dec 2015 07:51:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2972914fdd1182ecf20d4c1cbd9b2c55@mail.gmail.com> References: <11.24.55814.5A495665@pb1.pair.com> <56659949.8080405@gmail.com> <56659ABA.5010708@gmail.com> <2972914fdd1182ecf20d4c1cbd9b2c55@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 17:51:55 +0200 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Rowan Collins , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3a83da52ebf8052650d71a Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.6 life cycle From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com (Arvids Godjuks) --047d7b3a83da52ebf8052650d71a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2015-12-07 17:11 GMT+02:00 Zeev Suraski : > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rowan Collins [mailto:rowan.collins@gmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2015 4:42 PM > > To: internals@lists.php.net > > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.6 life cycle > > > > Rowan Collins wrote on 07/12/2015 14:35: > > > - On what factors will the decision be based? If the reason to delay > > > the decision is lack of information, what information are we planning > > > to use? Are there metrics we can use to make a more objective > decision? > > > > Come to think, this works the other way as well: if we *do* make a > decision > > now, are there factors that would allow the question to be reopened? > Again, > > to have any trust in the announced date, people would need to know what > > these were - if the decision is "probably August 2017", then that would > be no > > decision at all. > > It's always possible to submit another RFC to alter the end date, even if > we decide about one now. But I do think it'll send a different message - > that we think it's going to take extraordinary circumstances for us to > change the decision - vs. us saying "we'll wait and see", which at least I > would interpret as "they'll probably delay it". > > Zeev > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > According to PHP release RFC - the date is already set. To extend support for 5.6 you actually now need an RFC. Without the RFC any decision made by anybody in that regard is invalid and irrelevant. RFC or didn't happen. Just to be clear people do not forget what they actually voted on and that they have to stick to a process to make decisions. --047d7b3a83da52ebf8052650d71a--