Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89713 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39104 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2015 14:43:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2015 14:43:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.50 mail-wm0-f50.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.50] ([74.125.82.50:35194] helo=mail-wm0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EB/52-28320-8FA95665 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 09:43:05 -0500 Received: by wmuu63 with SMTP id u63so143292896wmu.0 for ; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:43:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=b+3O7zmL5HySljSsRboZuHQBKp2e6wY6KeBYy+0fVjg=; b=FbZh53ldwvCqJVllWi80V4YfiqiylfUM6JBEUH7AT3H6gTzBTdLFVqwxMqHtpE241U 0HjtpujUJy/WA1HKzoA6A5dR5txV97m80yqM/wO+kZjzZSxp5WuA+rkxRF4w3pSjNEZQ PPOXoyhvVLjAWtByTd/glSkmdat+b1EAtg3Ca7jNR6hEoSn9rhZFJJdWGaiCvuG50GRs SkdnKr3OwavD7DHoWjBiGI0ni6RURNp4jz15n1sg+YoBEghasPFMOUFowCYUYA1o3FmZ G4whYMZpSaqCEeAn45PP+gD+X9lf4xjYi+fqOWLScEIt6h8g2b340+CtySl82ePZDMCF DUOg== X-Received: by 10.194.200.5 with SMTP id jo5mr33452231wjc.79.1449499381798; Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:43:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.137] ([93.188.182.58]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id kb5sm25526031wjc.20.2015.12.07.06.43.00 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 07 Dec 2015 06:43:01 -0800 (PST) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <11.24.55814.5A495665@pb1.pair.com> <56659949.8080405@gmail.com> Message-ID: <56659ABA.5010708@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2015 14:42:02 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56659949.8080405@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: PHP 5.6 life cycle From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Rowan Collins wrote on 07/12/2015 14:35: > - On what factors will the decision be based? If the reason to delay > the decision is lack of information, what information are we planning > to use? Are there metrics we can use to make a more objective decision? Come to think, this works the other way as well: if we *do* make a decision now, are there factors that would allow the question to be reopened? Again, to have any trust in the announced date, people would need to know what these were - if the decision is "probably August 2017", then that would be no decision at all.