Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89680 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8666 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2015 00:49:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2015 00:49:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=oldschooldsl@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=oldschooldsl@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: oldschooldsl@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.182 mail-lb0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.182] ([209.85.217.182:36789] helo=mail-lb0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 98/E6-55814-497D4665 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:49:25 -0500 Received: by lbblt2 with SMTP id lt2so47508883lbb.3 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:49:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=hArQiMfg+jrHqWJemjKRVa4iRxCxCzqixGeKXDsLu1Y=; b=dHvQIQs6JkdAdRPj0tD5TWbcXdiqxKu/XN8cl23VsE82JIa9EVC44C9ry2eOyH8LWE EfKuo6R/pknUp+cfNcWdIJIHof3ILIYQ6loGTIT9IfiU9k7wtrr+eRbIpT+V85e4NZ6l WnyC4PwXu1bTHHVjXJZefdENKm8OsjUjI93CTZtzmkiSeWxvXMPv0/JNX+mQtA+Att2i kLMN56xeRhNs495uuf48j9QrJJgjkh1DnzFrayq+x0egK7XrPxUvThiVgk9vHEUipyPp wCMRcasyhwITRkJdQxR7pqZFns7pJM3St+pfWvxzMW1zfQmOaHqrYNZTZbuSRn2nL6nf P2eQ== X-Received: by 10.112.63.100 with SMTP id f4mr12676607lbs.85.1449449362018; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:49:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.33.68 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:49:02 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <566485DD.7010504@garfieldtech.com> <012901d1305d$aa68ed30$ff3ac790$@belski.net> <5664B8D3.8030003@php.net> <68k96b1afs8fbk49ehjdd0otqlq2qqni6q@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:49:02 -0500 Message-ID: To: Scott Arciszewski Cc: Jan Ehrhardt , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3fe8057db730526443aa2 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.6 life cycle From: oldschooldsl@gmail.com (Adam Howard) --001a11c3fe8057db730526443aa2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott Arciszewsk, I read the 8 month suggestion that someone else brought up. I do not recall who brought it up, but I think 2017 is far too much time. It only further enables bad practices. Jan Ehrhardt, That is not PHP's responsibility, that is your responsibility to update your own code. No one is going to force you to update, but it should not be PHP Development's strance to further enable people to use old code. On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Scott Arciszewski wrote: > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > > > Adam Howard in php.internals (Sun, 6 Dec 2015 18:07:53 -0500): > > >8 months is fine. It is more than enough time for people to upgrade a= nd > > >adapt. > > > > It ain't. If you have got large sites that are built with a framework > that > > requires an older PHP-version you will have to (a) convince the site > owner > > that an upgrade is absolutely necessary, (b) agree on the functional > specs > > of the site after the upgrade, (c) agree on a price quote with the > content > > owner, (d) get that quote accepted by the purchase department of the si= te > > owner. Each of these steps can easily take several months and then you > are > > not even starting building. > > -- > > Jan > > > > -- > > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > =E2=80=8BWhere did this 8 months figure come from? > > PHP 7.0.0 available -> 2015-12-03 > > Today -> 2015-12-06 > > PHP 5.6.x=E2=80=8B EOL'd -> 2017-08 > > =E2=80=8BThat's more than 8 months. > > Scott Arciszewski > Chief Development Officer > Paragon Initiative Enterprises =E2=80=8B > --001a11c3fe8057db730526443aa2--