Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89678 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4862 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2015 00:38:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Dec 2015 00:38:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=scott@paragonie.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=scott@paragonie.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain paragonie.com from 209.85.215.52 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: scott@paragonie.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.52 mail-lf0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.52] ([209.85.215.52:36172] helo=mail-lf0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/26-55814-A05D4665 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 19:38:35 -0500 Received: by lfs39 with SMTP id 39so139244229lfs.3 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:38:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paragonie-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MDC69JpYhgj1MDU00jTkjCQ3JtbJ5CIfGw6lXQMnZ+U=; b=Iw5EdO88nfDNSu6gCWeqx7N+Wcm9m8vzZM785CTA3xrg4ogSkHeEQJ3h2kPTQGBHBJ PbbZxvHAjcdn5GaleWtOsLcX7d2lJ+aRuBWvbbZ6b1HikPvOsjmbEUh5YfRp+MU9NIeH iBoahS5B9rExdojC7KIn6mxdrthqlqGDAU938tp7kjI8iTrMwHXtC+iC8FNd0yqObD/O nzm5IyOXKxv8ckHsY83HcNTYBFZio986gPdvGLkwdVCEr4v6PjXKnyVND28Oe5NXZFH1 bFmMpvqjhrjKDVpARk9zq6MZ1iLnmG26wqYjhhcg+awNNOYmD9wX/vLPQ2S9lbrztQJe Hcow== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MDC69JpYhgj1MDU00jTkjCQ3JtbJ5CIfGw6lXQMnZ+U=; b=USL6Fi9L6AqsBxaSrX7v6i8t6J+ENoTJ2EdJru7RE5k7i+FaG46aUIYQQpRZmQcgAm orpVs+ODd4VQytcKIqqIiroxTcdD+fsNaZ8LOmtjPjYkX6H6eGjBHllSEmLPRj19voWu Os0Z05QL4hMJf91K3bF++zypk8X+pfGesLdalB1EjWcnFsb2T4oDnfx8ZkEza0lj8Mxk jof+ng9HKADswp9EI32usXqnee7QP+029Zah8mKZCShadMdj3ufW5bu/emZMZNGDHgQo 96XazFcWlMiA4Odw9cqxLzM/AcMczsfZ0pfA1zTrDId1UUfY5OxD8zFNhc6C7VzgAvAs 2uOA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmMtetl2Iayt4w8206oSqqKvt0UqgNnITOfaCiVOW1OthrUEZwv9xIbmC4LthLHXBezYcY4 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.142.84 with SMTP id q81mr10613416lfd.77.1449448711401; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 16:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.237.230 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 16:38:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <68k96b1afs8fbk49ehjdd0otqlq2qqni6q@4ax.com> References: <566485DD.7010504@garfieldtech.com> <012901d1305d$aa68ed30$ff3ac790$@belski.net> <5664B8D3.8030003@php.net> <68k96b1afs8fbk49ehjdd0otqlq2qqni6q@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: To: Jan Ehrhardt Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11401a80904c6805264413d0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.6 life cycle From: scott@paragonie.com (Scott Arciszewski) --001a11401a80904c6805264413d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 7:33 PM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > Adam Howard in php.internals (Sun, 6 Dec 2015 18:07:53 -0500): > >8 months is fine. It is more than enough time for people to upgrade and > >adapt. > > It ain't. If you have got large sites that are built with a framework tha= t > requires an older PHP-version you will have to (a) convince the site owne= r > that an upgrade is absolutely necessary, (b) agree on the functional spec= s > of the site after the upgrade, (c) agree on a price quote with the conten= t > owner, (d) get that quote accepted by the purchase department of the site > owner. Each of these steps can easily take several months and then you ar= e > not even starting building. > -- > Jan > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > =E2=80=8BWhere did this 8 months figure come from? PHP 7.0.0 available -> 2015-12-03 Today -> 2015-12-06 PHP 5.6.x=E2=80=8B EOL'd -> 2017-08 =E2=80=8BThat's more than 8 months. Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises =E2=80=8B --001a11401a80904c6805264413d0--