Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89674 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95199 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2015 23:18:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Dec 2015 23:18:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.175 mail-pf0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.175] ([209.85.192.175:36435] helo=mail-pf0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B3/B4-55814-822C4665 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 18:18:01 -0500 Received: by pfdd184 with SMTP id d184so54490404pfd.3 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:17:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3bKhQsGvSg17xeKt2vH9k0rY2x0RVqu1L11lnpKFNWo=; b=Bk93KGEDsk+54S93SdAZHr93/cxNQxn82UuD/zXwPNBTZNFSD3TEtXU+4n6YXdA/gh 2agNAoDNdkMoIkkr9PhdIParU8rpcGAK7C4lg5AoAYXiMI/LUQig/gUE6ImdJGT97WdK fVT0usIiV8Ck7gin544P+Qr9bFZJszb3NOt0yhxN+KWEBf+tTXJxV/yDZbuf9yKhJbQD gH0asHkVpDjuBG8EuZcsCNDx2/MmBtqbgRz5geY0uhCE6Pr4kjSIf0GjgGRYHqkAfbXb TFJAWqb12b9XvunYffY7pnWuWqv9VCiowtYDdpuez8mWS+UOsXYPV+oPwrxY9Tt5+TWU grQQ== X-Received: by 10.98.86.132 with SMTP id h4mr39028051pfj.121.1449443877730; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air.local ([2602:304:cdc2:e5f0:1cb6:e55f:6082:be9a]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 25sm30169098pfp.62.2015.12.06.15.17.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 06 Dec 2015 15:17:57 -0800 (PST) To: Scott Arciszewski References: <90c8ecbc29f8a40a2430306b807a169e@mail.gmail.com> <5664AC01.1020602@gmail.com> Cc: Zeev Suraski , Jan Ehrhardt , PHP Internals X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5664C221.9040403@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 15:17:53 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.6 life cycle From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Giving everyone until the end of 2017 to update their servers is more > than sufficient. Sufficient for what? It is a hard fact that people still run 5.3 version. In fact, 2/3 of sites run EOLed versions. You can always say they have only themselves to blame, but then I'm not sure what "sufficient" means. Unless adoption patterns change drastically, by the end of 2017 most people will not be running PHP 7. That's not something we can realistically change (unless you have some way of changing those patterns we didn't try yet or they change by themselves somehow). Thus, our choice lies only in whether we support this majority of users in some way or say "you are on your own now, we don't care about you anymore". -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com