Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89663 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58759 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2015 18:02:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Dec 2015 18:02:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=remi@fedoraproject.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=remi@fedoraproject.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fedoraproject.org from 217.70.183.195 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: remi@fedoraproject.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.70.183.195 relay3-d.mail.gandi.net Received: from [217.70.183.195] ([217.70.183.195:54763] helo=relay3-d.mail.gandi.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 51/70-55814-F3874665 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:02:39 -0500 Received: from mfilter44-d.gandi.net (mfilter44-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.175]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5E4A80C6 for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:02:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter44-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter44-d.gandi.net (mfilter44-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xue03EuM7Eqr for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:02:34 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 82.241.130.121 Received: from schrodingerscat.famillecollet.com (pom51-2-82-241-130-121.fbx.proxad.net [82.241.130.121]) (Authenticated sender: contact@ll-experts.com) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5622DA80DB for ; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:02:33 +0100 (CET) To: internals@lists.php.net References: <90c8ecbc29f8a40a2430306b807a169e@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <56647839.9000009@fedoraproject.org> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 19:02:33 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <90c8ecbc29f8a40a2430306b807a169e@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 5.6 life cycle From: remi@fedoraproject.org (Remi Collet) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Le 06/12/2015 13:38, Zeev Suraski a écrit : > IMHO, I think we need to look at the 5.6 lifecycle very differently > from how we look at 5.5 and earlier. This is really the 5.x > lifecycle as it's the last version that's relatively completely > painless to upgrade to from 5.x (especially 5.3 and later). +1: last version 5 should probably be managed differently that other 5.x version. > PHP 4 was maintained for 4+ years after PHP 5.0 was released (5.0 > release July 2004, PHP 4 support ended 8/8/08). Not saying that we > need to do the same for 5, but one year upgrade cycle for everyone > on 5.x doesn't sound reasonable. I don't have a firm opinion on > 'active support' vs. 'security only' - I think the latter much more > closely defines what people truly care about in terms of whether > they feel comfortable having the version still deployed or not. > > At the very least I think we should give 5.6 24 months of lifetime > from PHP 7.0's release date (i.e. take it until Dec 2017), I agree having only 8 months (active support) + 12 months (security) seems very short. I will really prefer to have cycle aligned to new version so active support until Dec 2016 and security support until Dec 2017. > but I think we should also consider either extending it even > further, or at least paying attention to the situation on the > ground in terms of PHP 5's popularity as we get closer to that EOL > date. Personally I'm leaning towards having a firm date further > down the road than a 'flexible' one, so that we give people a clear > and reasonable timeline to upgrade - without risking that they > "won't take us seriously" and assume we'd delay the EOL. Yes, It make sense to me to extend, if needed, for some more months the security only time. And of course, this sould be planed and announced as soon as possible (still possible to extend, but not to reduce, after annoucement). Remi. > > Zeev > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlZkeDkACgkQYUppBSnxahjkZACgjkrXHjrVELOUQsYfyRpd6jMW 5LwAoIkqGb0eJeJaeFTQd++W1kPg5d3p =KiiI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----