Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89644 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98541 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2015 09:32:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Dec 2015 09:32:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ml@anderiasch.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ml@anderiasch.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain anderiasch.de designates 81.169.138.148 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ml@anderiasch.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.138.148 ares.art-core.org Received: from [81.169.138.148] ([81.169.138.148:33275] helo=ares.art-core.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/11-08340-3C004665 for ; Sun, 06 Dec 2015 04:32:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.178.20] (p4FFB1610.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [79.251.22.16]) by ares.art-core.org (mail.art-core.org) with ESMTPSA id 4DB8DCC40624; Sun, 6 Dec 2015 10:32:48 +0100 (CET) To: Christian Stocker , Andrea Faulds , internals@lists.php.net References: <039701d12dce$c67982a0$536c87e0$@lool.fr> <56605D5E.5050001@php.net> <5660CB92.1030703@gmail.com> <56616B0D.1050000@php.net> <5661D315.2030409@anderiasch.de> <5661D506.2080301@php.net> <5661E61F.8010507@anderiasch.de> <5663F5DE.4030700@chregu.tv> Message-ID: <566400BF.8030908@anderiasch.de> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 10:32:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5663F5DE.4030700@chregu.tv> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay From: ml@anderiasch.de (Florian Anderiasch) On 06.12.2015 09:46, Christian Stocker wrote: > > On 04.12.15 23:17, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> Hi Florian, >> >> I think it's worth pointing out that for OS X, Apple themselves >> distribute PHP, and in addition there's decent community package >> managers (Homebrew's the one I like), and it's easy to build yourself. > I'm fine with having that outside of PHP.net and concentrating the > efforts of the PHP community on the source releases (and Windows ;)) Hi, I was in no way trying to encourage any change for anyone that's not intended ;) My experiences in the past though showed me that "web developers" doing only PHP and JavaScript development *very often* are neither interested nor have the knowledge to easily build PHP on either Windows or OS X. (Yes, it sounds like the typical cliche that only the Linux users know how to do that by default, but it absolutely matches what I saw.) And afaik Apple only delivers one version per OS X release, so that only solves some problems. My point was that it's very easy to build on Linux and I've seen a share of problems on both Windows and OS X for people who haven't invested some effort. (Maybe more effort than necessary.) But I did forget about Homebrew and maybe back then this was a bigger problem than it is now. Gretings, Florian