Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89631 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60691 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2015 22:20:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Dec 2015 22:20:12 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 2.218.134.247 unknown Received: from [2.218.134.247] ([2.218.134.247:21345] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D4/80-55431-A9112665 for ; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 17:20:10 -0500 Message-ID: To: internals@lists.php.net References: <039701d12dce$c67982a0$536c87e0$@lool.fr> <56605D5E.5050001@php.net> <5660CB92.1030703@gmail.com> <56616B0D.1050000@php.net> <5661D315.2030409@anderiasch.de> <5661D506.2080301@php.net> <5661E61F.8010507@anderiasch.de> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 22:17:43 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5661E61F.8010507@anderiasch.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 2.218.134.247 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi Florian, Florian Anderiasch wrote: > On 04.12.2015 19:01, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >> Am 04.12.2015 um 18:53 schrieb Florian Anderiasch: >>> I hate to say it, but not providing an official Windows build is kind of >>> sticking the finger to everyone using Windows for PHP (not the language) >>> development. >> >> Sorry, but that does not explain the special treatment of Windows. >> Red Hat provides official PHP binaries for RHEL and Fedora. Ubuntu >> provides official PHP binaries for Ubuntu. etc. Why should Microsoft >> not provide the official PHP binaries for Windows? > > I think we're looking at the same problem from different directions :) > > Many languages offer something for different platforms (see below), I > wonder why for example http://php-osx.liip.ch/ is a dedicated project > and no one (or did someone?) try to invite them (or are there better > alternatives?) to be an official part of php.net? (The formal answer > probably is "we only support the release tarball, as downloaded from > php.net - but that's not because users don't matter, just to keep the > reproducability of bugs consistent. And I think on Windows and OS X this > could warrant having blessed builds for ease of use.) > > So to answer your question: We're treating Windows differently because > it's badly needed. And neither RHEL nor Fedora or Ubuntu need that. I think it's worth pointing out that for OS X, Apple themselves distribute PHP, and in addition there's decent community package managers (Homebrew's the one I like), and it's easy to build yourself. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/