Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89617 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16603 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2015 13:54:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Dec 2015 13:54:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:34201] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id ED/90-09187-81B91665 for ; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 08:54:33 -0500 Received: (qmail 24409 invoked by uid 89); 4 Dec 2015 13:54:29 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 24403, pid: 24406, t: 0.0834s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.7?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 4 Dec 2015 13:54:29 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <039701d12dce$c67982a0$536c87e0$@lool.fr> <56605D5E.5050001@php.net> <5660CB92.1030703@gmail.com> <56616B0D.1050000@php.net> Message-ID: <56619B15.8010309@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 13:54:29 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <56616B0D.1050000@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 04/12/15 10:29, Sebastian Bergmann wrote: >> Windows as a platform is different from Linux/Mac in several aspects > True. But why does the PHP Project have to provide Windows binaries on > php.net? Microsoft should be treated as any other downstream vendor: let > them build their binaries on their infrastructure and let them distribute > their binaries through their channels. I think the problem in the past has been that simply compiling on a windows machine required both proprietary software and an understanding of areas that a new user would not normally encounter. Things have changed and we can download a free environment to create a windows build almost as easily as building on any Linux distribution. That ONLY works because Pierre and others have sorted out all the problems with the build process, and the binaries are almost a free result of the QA process. It would be nice if Apache was also available as an official windows build since that can still be difficult to build privately on windows and is the main reason ApacheLounge came into existence. Yes providing windows binaries is not essential but it does at lease ensure that one is helping a windows php newbie one knows exactly what they have installed. Personally I've migrated to only running PHP on Linux these days but I still have to support windows only sites and appreciate the binary builds. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk