Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89563 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27587 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2015 12:54:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Dec 2015 12:54:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.213.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.51 mail-vk0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.51] ([209.85.213.51:35029] helo=mail-vk0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7D/A4-02069-E9B30665 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 07:54:56 -0500 Received: by vkha189 with SMTP id a189so44396750vkh.2 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 04:54:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zend-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:thread-index:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=AhTbhKXRF2K+zBDQnXJzXzIe9DEiF11/7Ih4YYY+cfU=; b=nLvJzDeOmcuCeXYuOB9YQ+wBltCRtYKitWDmoIIih919zTYHaf7AxZbqaGnSqENI+c Llv2YDQyyoPclZIkHzC3mo3nhJwm6XvtsQm9h15m+6xhjLHHOT23bukiCFraY6maJWe0 rVH7EDfGURfNYSs8oQGCmLrIJRQ1vdSdFgDV9s/sTPQM8CGYXCzkVF2/q5pKVmgHaqR4 YBjn6ipRYMBzcDDZYAm9/Xp+474HLgvcPG5KXscCwTRC4Q2uy3zG/pGSOilq2onGBIpj Ctq1EwEokq66rMtS2F5PtD+e6ZDw15YusBTSUHFyWvlaSDgBfE08x4WYa65QWVxM2zwV +6Bw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=AhTbhKXRF2K+zBDQnXJzXzIe9DEiF11/7Ih4YYY+cfU=; b=WkE0x8+XlgqIgN+MDeQK0w/ANeSkmVbeM34rY+ebi0rTQicAbwXsyTk27/eKdV11lg QmCG6tcgFvxMKVx6wPKs87ha0Gqnw4jIGW2lRegkEyxNj+NeQhx6kcz095uI/f/o09KD muJxX6jr7q0AyWjaSPK9q8ZiFpolWf/1coBKG+gUIdWhfPFNSg/Nbi32Y7WYu920ekLA XQgXZFbTCwzwsJTEpknA/LXbPvl7xEP7SkV6NgU4KEL7xXIpuKGWmp2hCLOeQU5fnfi8 vkmED12I7d1pjZUyem8XnSsBMuRX1vW3kQNweX+r5Fix3NalSPiRtChgwI0i5MIAxmSI vVtA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQndFaOhO8vSVXWAtFaw1sNPmvB21H0mwb+jAj11AKGLLrFYbTAgSsnUWPXfvaMVhJprvNJSpSaGSyTQoGptLamW7ytrUJFY2qyFloMTh9GIsIxsNlCULwX5WjOiTfB//Bft+fYG1C9ZU1GSSoFPKcRSUd1QaxsIKoPNGcCdwu+/mY7p8q8= X-Received: by 10.31.8.4 with SMTP id 4mr6004949vki.131.1449147291962; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 04:54:51 -0800 (PST) References: <045401d12cd3$d7d57ff0$87807fd0$@belski.net> <565EA53F.5050507@php.net> <047301d12cdd$5e248020$1a6d8060$@belski.net> <565FD845.7090502@php.net> <005801d12da1$fc169ce0$f443d6a0$@belski.net> <011b01d12db7$8a6142b0$9f23c810$@belski.net> <64f1019d9bba7b57e1b63796e49163fb@mail.gmail.com> <015801d12dc9$4ee741f0$ecb5c5d0$@belski.net> In-Reply-To: <015801d12dc9$4ee741f0$ecb5c5d0$@belski.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQH8D4RpvZtVJlCUXbbll8gFykb12gIdDYXtAlzlH+ECVNzdfQGUkP4oAgivjb0BT9LI8wHJTX4HAZUtQFkCue/e4p3U0abw Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 14:54:51 +0200 Message-ID: <7d624a46586122e0f5c3d860b6a09ff4@mail.gmail.com> To: Anatol Belski Cc: Sebastian Bergmann , internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > What I just wanted to say by the temperature is that I'm as human as > anyone > else and hopefully allowed to hype not less than anyone else. However > there are always people who celebrate and people who serve, those who > serve have to keep the cold head. I'm serving, that's it. Hope this > explains > any possible mistaking on my words. I agree with you 100% on that, and I certainly didn't imply you weren't human :) On internals@, we're all in the business of serving, and when I, Sebastian and others suggested they thought it was wrong to delay the release - they were just as cool headed as you were - they just reached a different conclusion. Zeev