Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89554 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10790 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2015 11:58:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Dec 2015 11:58:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=derick@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=derick@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 82.113.146.227 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: derick@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 82.113.146.227 xdebug.org Linux 2.6 Received: from [82.113.146.227] ([82.113.146.227:45352] helo=xdebug.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A6/71-02069-26E20665 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 06:58:28 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by xdebug.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 021E110DBFD; Thu, 3 Dec 2015 11:58:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 11:58:23 +0000 (GMT) X-X-Sender: derick@whisky.home.derickrethans.nl To: =?UTF-8?Q?Fran=C3=A7ois_Laupretre?= cc: Pierre Joye , Sebastian Bergmann , PHP internals In-Reply-To: <56602CB9.3000007@php.net> Message-ID: References: <045401d12cd3$d7d57ff0$87807fd0$@belski.net> <565EA53F.5050507@php.net> <047301d12cdd$5e248020$1a6d8060$@belski.net> <565FD845.7090502@php.net> <007001d12da4$5b044cf0$110ce6d0$@belski.net> <565FFF89.2050604@php.net> <012401d12db7$a43cd410$ecb67c30$@belski.net> <56602062.90905@php.net> <56602433.8090608@php.net> <56602CB9.3000007@php.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; BOUNDARY="8323329-1900595645-1449143904=:5212" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans) --8323329-1900595645-1449143904=:5212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Thu, 3 Dec 2015, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre wrote: > Le 03/12/2015 12:28, Pierre Joye a =C3=A9crit : > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Sebastian Bergmann > > wrote: > > > Am 03.12.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Pierre Joye: > > > > In my world, we build softwares from sources, then we may found > > > > issues. We patch the sources to fix them and make everything work > > > > together smoothly. > > > Are you suggesting that PHP 7.0.0 will be changed, re-tagged, and t= hen > > > released without a new release candidate if you find a problem buil= ding > > > it for Windows? > > Can you at least give me the illusion that you read our answers? It is > > not only about windows. > >=20 > > I think it is confusing enough without trying to add more > > "suggestions" to the stack. > >=20 > > What I am saying is simple. Openssl will release security related > > fixes today. Most if not all of them will hit 3rd party > > packagers/distros today/tomorrow/soon. Now, after discussions, waiting > > a couple of hours more sounds like a sane (if not only) move to ensure > > that everything goes well with openssl and php 7. If that's not the > > case, for example openssl breaks BC again, then it is a problem in > > openssl and they should delay their release or distros/3rd parties > > will delay the patches. It won't have an impact on today planed > > release of php 7. > >=20 > For subsequent important releases, could we introduce a concept of 'froze= n > zone' of one or two days before the planned release date. That concept already exists. See line 11 and 12 (second item!!) at=20 http://git.php.net/?p=3Dphp-src.git;a=3Dblob;f=3DREADME.RELEASE_PROCESS cheers, Derick --8323329-1900595645-1449143904=:5212--