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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 17:17:24 +0700
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

Hi Zeev,

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>
>> On 3 =D7=91=D7=93=D7=A6=D7=9E=D7=B3 2015, at 10:09, Anatol Belski <anato=
l.php@belski.net> wrote:
>>
>> I would just ask for some patience, as mentioned before - today by UTC t=
he
>> announcement is going out. It is still December 3rd as planned. That's w=
hy I
>> was sending the awareness about the late UTC afternoon today.
>>
>
> Anatol,
>
> We're not dealing with tax forms that have to make it in by midnight UTC =
but rather with humans.  Humans who are very excited and literally can't wa=
it to celebrate the release of PHP - a lot more so as an event than necessa=
rily downloading and installing it right away (if that's what they cared ab=
out they could do it already).
>
> Releasing it now would mean most of the world gets to actually celebrate =
it on Dec 3rd, instead of turning it into a frustrating waiting day.  I fin=
d it hard to imagine people having an issue with us saying the Windows bina=
ries would be coming soon.  That's why all in all, I think it's a mistake n=
ot to push it out as early in the day as possible, in other words - now.
>
> I also think that in general we shouldn't wait with source releases for b=
inary release - but specifically in this case, it's too minor a thing in my=
 opinion to delay a historical release like that of PHP 7.0.0.

The releases must be kept on hold until these binaries (and other are
done in the same time btw) are validated. See it as part of the QA. As
Remi mentioned, many issues have be caught during this process. If it
was only about delivering binaries, a day later will never be a
problem. But it is not the case. The case we are referring toi is to
avoid to have to do a fast patch release to work around an issue we
could have seen by validating the binaries.Simple.


--=20
Pierre

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