Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89530 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55736 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2015 05:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Dec 2015 05:50:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sebastian@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sebastian@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 188.94.27.5 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sebastian@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 188.94.27.5 scarlet.netpirates.net Received: from [188.94.27.5] ([188.94.27.5:45036] helo=scarlet.netpirates.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4D/B4-02398-A18DF565 for ; Thu, 03 Dec 2015 00:50:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 7181 invoked by uid 89); 3 Dec 2015 05:50:16 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.4.0 ppid: 7173, pid: 7176, t: 0.0400s scanners: attach: 1.4.0 clamav: 0.98.4/m:55/d:20700 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.178.24?) (php@sebastian-bergmann.de@84.165.93.58) by scarlet.netpirates.net with ESMTPA; 3 Dec 2015 05:50:16 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <045401d12cd3$d7d57ff0$87807fd0$@belski.net> <565EA53F.5050507@php.net> <047301d12cdd$5e248020$1a6d8060$@belski.net> X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <565FD845.7090502@php.net> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 06:51:01 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <047301d12cdd$5e248020$1a6d8060$@belski.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.0.0 final RTM delay From: sebastian@php.net (Sebastian Bergmann) Am 02.12.2015 um 09:42 schrieb Anatol Belski: >> Do the Windows builds have to be available immediately when the >> sources of PHP 7.0.0 are released? > Yes. http://git.php.net/?p=php-src.git;a=blob;f=README.RELEASE_PROCESS currently reads "Ensure that Windows builds will work before packaging" in the "General notes and tips" section and then later in the "Rolling a stable release" section "Once the release has been tagged, contact the PHP Windows development team (internals-win@lists.php.net) so that Windows binaries can be created." I do not think that this means that the release of the source tarball must wait for the availability of the Windows binaries. In fact, step 2g of "Getting the stable release announced" explains what to do when the Windows binaries are not available at the time of release. Please do not get me wrong: I appreciate what Microsoft in general and you, Anatol, as well as Pierre in particular have done for PHP. But no vendor -- neither Microsoft nor Red Hat nor whoever else rolls binary distributions of PHP -- should have the power to delay a release in my opinion.