Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89450 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 47861 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2015 16:05:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2015 16:05:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.170 mail-ob0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.170] ([209.85.214.170:34796] helo=mail-ob0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DD/32-35358-DCD27565 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:05:34 -0500 Received: by obbbj7 with SMTP id bj7so65431756obb.1 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:05:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=UPT0TTG/HqqhJlw+QMxQdscc1SY7H7xVckOEsbqB9zE=; b=fPpmfLGtkC7rYoMly4ubumuygNraaXVDqRdWrKcROyY78oQ1lDZ68yuezz5bmwTCQl aBiiJdcs72c5PSx+9EDdBn9PbejhHS1KMb2m609Gw8Ti1z5bVmniVIbQJw+/jKalHhjj LPfO0/2NC2hTKha40NeybhrzwZuAv6N7Evw4W+pAqk5WM9UAKOq9YMsNxJggviz0lEki R8U23F4oj8ufUiYYvtn2AxKzy4m7FH1KHoZ6xM77aJxZys7m5yzgdJOA8pgkAQ+RhkVp E/z0k/+t7Oy1IslnVEQZTldgUdus9wVMTxe+ZG+kZ4OTj+WZIuXEH+3B4Ct70m5s4Tap FhAw== X-Received: by 10.60.116.39 with SMTP id jt7mr28634423oeb.54.1448553931610; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:05:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.80.215 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 08:05:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <56572AEE.9030407@gmail.com> References: <5655D82A.8020304@lsces.co.uk> <5655E4E4.8070200@garfieldtech.com> <5655E61E.3000904@gmail.com> <5655E93F.90506@gmail.com> <5655F24B.6020401@garfieldtech.com> <5655F47C.3060504@gmail.com> <1B1E6CD7-2378-43CA-A636-83383707AF8E@gmail.com> <56572AEE.9030407@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:05:12 -0500 Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0116168288223c052573be03 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Native Annotation Syntax From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") --089e0116168288223c052573be03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Ok then. I'll pretend that lack of interest didn't happen many other situations (like http://marc.info/?t=144608767800001) and move on. I don't want to bring the patch up to date/simplify it without a clear decision of at least be willing to discuss the patch and not reject by all means. I'd propose a voting as "Are you ready for Annotations yet?". Every core developer understands (and can base their decisions) by looking at the complexity of the old patch. Once voting completes and IF it gets approved, I'll gladly put it up to date for consideration and update the RFC. []s, On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Rowan Collins wrote: > guilhermeblanco@gmail.com wrote on 26/11/2015 15:14: > >> I haven't seen any user asking for traits >> > > Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen. > > I just did a very quick search on Google for php + mixins, limited to 2007 > or earlier (long before the current Trait implementation was born), and got > plenty of results lamenting the lack of support for horizontal reuse in PHP. > > See for yourself: > https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=php+%22horizontal+reuse%22&safe=active&hl=en&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F31%2F2007&tbm=#safe=active&hl=en&tbs=cdr:1%2Ccd_max:12%2F31%2F2007&q=php+mixins > > It's a common accusation of projects like this that time was spent on X > that should have been spent on Y, but that's nearly always a massive > over-simplification. > > Let's not spend too much time worrying if specific people are interested - > they may just be on holiday, or busy elsewhere, or just not have much to > say until someone assembles a few more details about the proposed feature. > Keep it constructive, lay out how you think the feature should look and > why, what questions are still open, and see what's needed to move it > forward. > > > Regards, > -- > Rowan Collins > [IMSoP] > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Guilherme Blanco MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com GTalk: guilhermeblanco Toronto - ON/Canada --089e0116168288223c052573be03--