Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89447 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40732 invoked from network); 26 Nov 2015 15:15:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Nov 2015 15:15:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.174 mail-ob0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.174] ([209.85.214.174:34022] helo=mail-ob0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5A/D0-35358-6F127565 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:15:02 -0500 Received: by obbbj7 with SMTP id bj7so64578691obb.1 for ; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:14:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=cpxSRyjX3zh+1Itc677wkW94JmuWmRi4ii6dx/dG0Ww=; b=RDxxTdWhT3THxgdAQgDQCrWhIzYoofb+PIFHdKUH1ZQ7SluJcfjn6XXb5mZyrBMrgt z+ZIjfJrmsQ45cEp5xupQpYzZur0KZwMZFBs7J5T+Tglaxm47bK3epC+yuS1sMt0v4gg T1N6U+UIVU4qe8j27wJV5ciSxp3tU5m9X4zWHnklpzYYCBGWW0D+F5pNTUvoMhTauH5y 8iCGY7uP1KKnNSfbuvi/qxFWk3U9FHQmiRVl1oOFRLEFwEJ2U7uqzDrXvhfMU0IrWdgJ ADmjY/IFWMvpykqSvAQw4+mheC7bQwLUdOZVHb8lULIgAGwl/00xOOGcNyLe9wGf/jq0 AciA== X-Received: by 10.182.153.226 with SMTP id vj2mr28330454obb.61.1448550899299; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:14:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.80.215 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Nov 2015 07:14:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5654B516.4020700@gmail.com> <5655D82A.8020304@lsces.co.uk> <5655E4E4.8070200@garfieldtech.com> <5655E61E.3000904@gmail.com> <5655E93F.90506@gmail.com> <5655F24B.6020401@garfieldtech.com> <5655F47C.3060504@gmail.com> <1B1E6CD7-2378-43CA-A636-83383707AF8E@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 26 Nov 2015 10:14:39 -0500 Message-ID: To: Levi Morrison Cc: Rowan Collins , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d0dc0cabb7c05257309e7 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Native Annotation Syntax From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") --089e013d0dc0cabb7c05257309e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Let's be clear. I haven't seen any user asking for traits, which introduced almost the same amount of performance cost and complexity to ZE. It was proposed by a "long term contributor" and everybody said yay. When multiple userland people ask about the same feature, every single major framework uses a hackish way to suppress a language deficiency, and internals developers don't move a finger (or even care to reply here) about the subject, it clearly exposes to me they're not paying attention to user's needs. This is lack of interest, but you can choose better words. Regards, On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: > > Ah, and please stop saying "it should be in docblock". This argument is > > just bull... to suppress the actual people interested to see this > natively > > available and just exposes your lack of interest into language > improvement. > > Every feature has a cost and benefit. It is perfectly fine to have the > opinion that a feature is better left out of the language based on > that cost. Being against a feature does not mean that person is > against language improvement or has a lack of interest. > -- Guilherme Blanco MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com GTalk: guilhermeblanco Toronto - ON/Canada --089e013d0dc0cabb7c05257309e7--