Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89367 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 82779 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2015 11:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Nov 2015 11:57:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=leight@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=leight@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: leight@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.52 mail-wm0-f52.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.52] ([74.125.82.52:33961] helo=mail-wm0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CB/13-57156-FA054565 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 06:57:36 -0500 Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so205515850wmv.1 for ; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 03:57:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=opWrQwGyhVUg4StwZhtPzN2kqbg+Pac0JY6bynZf9f0=; b=iPtlL2XP7me3ey0+MIV+zDZ1ixDzdQglrdLkKCHTsDxu1U9Ewk2U5cJfdN4wIRKBR7 MMdaClxcHPxitdDqHqll3mvsjoJ5MY5rOVdWzsx7uBheqJKliSVVDLG5hhOU1x7fGd4n 0l7FTzMelRPvlZFT1p+BcHMK8xp1uYemp8htljRyZlW6dbDO5Wf+OhmM647EagMc3fdc 7xsch3lZkpNr9R76aImmDCruFFZDiszrm8DNswrj6KDY8ymZxqlQSpehZiRIHTPCGqUK zKfYSP7aK+wg0gNeo4pGh9SSCDFNs/knAhVns51cu6KgnpYPPmaB834Wc8z6p7dyvrYY LZ/w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.24.38 with SMTP id r6mr35578070wjf.5.1448366253156; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 03:57:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.28.52.131 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Nov 2015 03:57:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 11:57:33 +0000 Message-ID: To: Anatol Belski Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d2a78062e910525480ce1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0.0 release From: leight@gmail.com (Leigh) --047d7b5d2a78062e910525480ce1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 23 November 2015 at 21:10, Anatol Belski wrote: > a) release on 26th including all known bug fixes > b) do RC8, assume there are no bugs, so target 10th for RTM > c) do RC8, release on 3rd, expect there are no bugs come in > d) continue issuing release candidates till it's stable enough (needs > definition of stable and probably an RFC) > > I would really ask to reach a consent on either a) or c). IMO, the options > b) and d) are the direct road to curbing 7.0.0. There is no hurry to > release just to release, but it is definitely harmful to slow down the rise. > > Thanks > > Anatol > I prefer a over c. As you said, we can deliver a stable and high quality 7.0.0 today. An RC period where you expect no bugs does not sound productive to me. We all know the "real testing" doesn't begin until it's released, and the best way to find what is left (things we have not found in over a year of development and testing), is to get more people looking at it. Delaying the release is actually delaying the discovery of bugs that affect real world applications that we do not have access to, and cannot test with. Many teams will not even start testing with 7 until it gets an official release. If something is found, it doesn't make the release any less high quality. Any bugs that would be found between now and the 3rd will still be found (and probably more), and they will still be fixed. The only difference would be a 0.0.1 version number. /2c --047d7b5d2a78062e910525480ce1--