Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89360 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40533 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2015 00:12:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Nov 2015 00:12:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dz@heroku.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dz@heroku.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain heroku.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dz@heroku.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.41 mail-wm0-f41.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.41] ([74.125.82.41:34460] helo=mail-wm0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0D/0F-47837-37BA3565 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:12:36 -0500 Received: by wmvv187 with SMTP id v187so185571227wmv.1 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:12:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heroku-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=DLxxqThI04i0MZ328Mn6RYkIoI/xgK4n8ydUcViU+Ic=; b=BnkJ+pMwkZeTiRo1g7KDcdeNCJgK7N24f9v1suZhUF5IntEGaliZT61GtirvJX1qOS /DKYe2F26NVRkM2zl1WSllvFVy6G9jbrrLoTh12dixXXBY4OMeSNcyLLIl3zmS6gOTop v6nud0bDwJlTVKbv0saHPLqbGozfroFm9U8ByloGS0hgHQ1Nv3W9Ab7wwHiXxs4S+0Jn p4p6NE9H0e5ZGwKMBPgGScYcqg5WFiIEFw11bWVWd2Pv6lgItHObtSWQfQYFyLAQTdjt tCTonH11HQ94D19cSTfFWp0VnSpDmaqM69WZfn2srzZOvQ6YdbyGNC9TCldbTUslhFdU uQjQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=DLxxqThI04i0MZ328Mn6RYkIoI/xgK4n8ydUcViU+Ic=; b=WBbvlC5qywBSHEhcKknHW2l+RMyjvavJgboHK4E0M3eh9XrEWrFoD5Q409KlSJzz9s 1IGmbscigvxgKTI4Dl/xJFjeIq2eQF3ogpAzAwo+RLum/bOxPPyVEmw1aK2qRnmOG28g C8huTFo2EbxyMOtoGiyxe5UZsyD4zKu1fz15W+EIW94NBYQ4kuqAoekohHbR/G9aux6+ iNA9iS7UEAOuOfm3ykPfA61hDpnH0pW+sx4ycBzMRTOxaWdcJgfSt+iV0J1rUZFx9+2E MCLAtjzlvStYwjOlpPWF8VGkxcu0gft5WvZNqk9vcQU225fjNIVnfVzOXE7fK+LTj1RL yzAA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmPj1qybawmQs7G3h7Hu+oa+ZMquwnBkl8y01ckGXV9Wtwq6Kst/AGEe3V2CDL8h3VSFg+Y X-Received: by 10.194.8.227 with SMTP id u3mr33288928wja.38.1448323951930; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:12:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.153.33.14] ([62.17.146.144]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z10sm15570873wmg.4.2015.11.23.16.12.30 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:12:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 01:12:27 +0100 Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <41DCE9DE-2187-476C-A843-71E86C8C15E1@heroku.com> References: To: Anatol Belski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0.0 release From: dz@heroku.com (David Zuelke) On 23.11.2015, at 22:10, Anatol Belski wrote: > So in the end, a solution is wanted. I don't think any opinion is = allowed to be ignored for such a topic. So options >=20 > a) release on 26th including all known bug fixes > b) do RC8, assume there are no bugs, so target 10th for RTM > c) do RC8, release on 3rd, expect there are no bugs come in > d) continue issuing release candidates till it's stable enough (needs = definition of stable and probably an RFC) >=20 > I would really ask to reach a consent on either a) or c). IMO, the = options b) and d) are the direct road to curbing 7.0.0. There is no = hurry to release just to release, but it is definitely harmful to slow = down the rise. My vote (if it matters) goes for c) It also has the nice side effect of not clashing with ~Black Friday, and = by next week, the "oh wow Wordpress just moved to Node.js" hype will = have died down too, giving PHP 7 more of the attention it deserves ;)