Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89353 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23885 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2015 21:21:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Nov 2015 21:21:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.47 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.47 mail-pa0-f47.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.47] ([209.85.220.47:33396] helo=mail-pa0-f47.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7B/5C-47837-55383565 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:21:29 -0500 Received: by pabfh17 with SMTP id fh17so208873615pab.0 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:21:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jLrCXXd/CIOnroyA88q9MbHNCpdSlWsUgARHC4mWqlk=; b=BsIg5dVNGBbHU+v4N2N5jLG7iIUTlHzs2EbP5cyU8Ab9njzxkGJrLqIw+fbL2ZyMfG Syp61nX+sv+A2CyKAkNjoaaGi8lhCBAWrlXB88454jZkPAYZngW+5uLgp6pJfR3Y5svI O+Ql2J6NAKn8EQVGx7qb8Uh8LpW3Fo6lQZjoio+3bbva2ioR2uY1I/vSNZp7sHKHc/Au kPXgj0vn/sVwJw37njmw64rbih/usB+aRnxCmmHQ+kNcwq5ubUNgNDiNoEG2mYaFm1rl BvVcz1j8BtcZ0mpTcQukCWbIaIyRZvI4ElXlOMEWPJ7m5hnBZTEPWi9zX29ptt/DNarj 6bgA== X-Received: by 10.68.137.36 with SMTP id qf4mr38511631pbb.11.1448313682586; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:21:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from stas-air.corp.wikimedia.org (tan1.corp.wikimedia.org. [198.73.209.1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ag1sm11566235pbc.41.2015.11.23.13.21.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:21:21 -0800 (PST) To: Anatol Belski , "internals@lists.php.net" References: X-Enigmail-Draft-Status: N1110 Message-ID: <5653834E.401@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:21:18 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 7.0.0 release From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > So in the end, a solution is wanted. I don't think any opinion is > allowed to be ignored for such a topic. So options > > a) release on 26th including all known bug fixes > b) do RC8, assume there are no bugs, so target 10th for RTM > c) do RC8, release on 3rd, expect there are no bugs come in > d) continue issuing release candidates till it's stable enough (needs definition of stable and probably an RFC) > > I would really ask to reach a consent on either a) or c). IMO, the options b) and d) are the direct road to curbing 7.0.0. There is no hurry to release just to release, but it is definitely harmful to slow down the rise. I like option c. The count bug looks like it could break a bunch of apps, so releasing with it is possible but not ideal. Since we have a fix for it I'd just wait another week. Not releasing on holiday is also a plus in my book (not enough by itself to wait another week but in conjunction with the actual serious bug in my opinion it tips the scale). P.S. of course I also assume if somebody discovers huge bug before the 3rd we'd have to reconsider, but otherwise we should assume RC8 is the future GA tag. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com