Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89339 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92179 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2015 17:23:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Nov 2015 17:23:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pjsturgeon@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pjsturgeon@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pjsturgeon@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.50 mail-lf0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.50] ([209.85.215.50:35349] helo=mail-lf0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3A/E6-47837-18B43565 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:23:13 -0500 Received: by lfdl133 with SMTP id l133so31100670lfd.2 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:23:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HRnVhoSeRmaGnSjgIqvUo61IWpjF4imZuQhQFWLfk2w=; b=UeeRyCry0hD8PXu7SaYu/5ibXQ1vWC+GWZQ/j2VKGjoZXFJKo91GOigHg7wDEi0wNE D1EEQbIfnRJtuf5McVlwLKyEajLmu/X5pEMtDFbg41/gu4+yB1fB/JQ+GMZ8GEFWhBwf 7TCRWqKCRQkSwk8k1V4wuKbC4k0k0gyxIb6il2XASqoFdyxw9IGzKO2Nqnfm6nil0vlP YfZyuDHYO0mLkMBLprdCdDuBVfi99TEPvaL94zNcBXP1TwLq6hmJM1ydO8o8T/ghzllf rXxq26jbiLAZ8uUUU7mQK9+KMJAy4AGZOi7CwvN8osdCn/WEKsIM6AT740JZ5YiMHH9f dAOA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.25.27.147 with SMTP id b141mr8795297lfb.87.1448299389862; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:23:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.31.141 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:23:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <112FFBCD-8445-40BC-B92F-3A97D3E97C4C@zend.com> <56523F74.9040708@lerdorf.com> <06a601d125c0$99d5cfd0$cd816f70$@belski.net> <5652D782.40601@lerdorf.com> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 07:23:09 -1000 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Xinchen Hui , Joe Watkins , Anatol Belski , Anthony Ferrara , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] INDRECT in arrays causes count() to become unpredictable From: pjsturgeon@gmail.com (Phil Sturgeon) The conversation is STILL not about the severity of the bug, it's now about playing the blame game of whose fault this is that PR got bad, that people are being meanies to those that are working hard (not true) and repeating the same mantra over and over again: > I still don't see anyone going straight to production with 7.0.0 unless they have been extensively testing the RCs. That isn't what stable means. .0.0 means that everyone who's been waiting for this gets to use it. Ever random Jane is going to grab this and start developing with it, without ever seeing a single RC or this thread. Please, please, please PLEASE stop repeating this. It sounds like a fix exists which people are happy with, and some folks are ok not making another RC. Discuss that aspect. Do a little poll on that. Do anything other than repeat these weird sentiments about how people don't use stable releases over and over.