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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 07:15:05 -1000
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To: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] INDRECT in arrays causes count() to become unpredictable
From: pjsturgeon@gmail.com (Phil Sturgeon)

On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:
> On 11/23/2015 09:49 AM, Phil Sturgeon wrote:
>> The "There will always be bugs" argument is a strawman, nobody is
>> saying wait until it's perfect.
>>
>> People in this thread are consistently conflating "there will always
>> be bugs" with "lets just ignore this bug which is 'around critical'
>> and crack on because yolo."
>
> You seem to be confused Phil. Nobody is arguing that this bug shouldn't
> be fixed. The question is all about how severe it is and whether it
> should trigger another release candidate.
>
> -Rasmus
>
>

Thanks for replying Rasmus but I am not at all confused, and you
seemed to miss my point in the larger email. The one you replied to
was a reitteration as the sentiment was being repeated.

If this conversation was 100% about the severity of the bug, GREAT.

Instead, people keep saying nonsense like "Nobody will use 7.0.0" and
"Whatever we can just release 7.0.1 really soon." and ".0.0 releases
are just to get people to start using it."

Those arguments are AWFUL and I hate that you folks keep using them.

If you want to 100% discuss severity that would be great, but nobody
is doing that, and they're derailing with this absolute nonsense.