Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89330 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66970 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2015 14:44:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Nov 2015 14:44:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 74.125.82.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.42 mail-wm0-f42.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.42] ([74.125.82.42:35569] helo=mail-wm0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/E2-47837-43623565 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:44:05 -0500 Received: by wmuu63 with SMTP id u63so57060752wmu.0 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:44:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zend-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=8imf1nRwWwiwnZYeiVSKIfTOYL2WG+xdvsHALZy+D/Q=; b=QbKnyIB6ycM1UDAk/5shtcr+pncjyV8UbHG25aY+SaEzl449a3LX2ZWVB3DErkKa3Y YpnxbOd0uRESIX3he7BCxvAzUNizbPWT3rCqVMFYnbfPAECzkA4HYpHkD97vYOn9Tnbw 6p2fk8rkyXPiIZeTIpRagj0R4HWDJw2dQvsXqUnjtruU/h+XjYFfLqUzdLvU5k5NIXUi WuZMUKgatI0Kkg4CbSKajnTiId5LDsat9oJApIT8jJp9jvrzaFrK6a6IgaR7Gc8Wxj/H /i1Bk8eHtx4d8YuK6bkQJjxqTpYTi1MuxuAqyPcZC3Hlq2txvD8y8jdd7IyfPs1BRPJO d3SQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=8imf1nRwWwiwnZYeiVSKIfTOYL2WG+xdvsHALZy+D/Q=; b=C4DtcLXog8RY4SypALG4VrfW6Oh/QTsXke53VFd6mHPUpX0g7Abb5dWyZdQ3sV7Wqo XouRGiVdxAGdsyXM3m4Laoqsf1Fko7IuL34IC3Xa7NepsLf1jmL5hYP1t4xpGr6npRCC 0eVTPc+wPHWlq8PEdefqYgVYa3HvII2BPSrhU/HXBls7TNv1HAsWt9n9n2nTbTsKbrTk d1GwmtRJu3NdB5xf8DXOA5YcmlZMwaw16zmOLasqa3fU8K1bKVOyoqBelRGNWlF8mCoa xyAkYEQJ9A8ZcKVnuESf2qK8zlJVdN0//8c0CVkCvlrWZgHzgehN5LOtcLk3WcS5V1fl d3Xg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnwgqLxMmoJiIJ/wJP163Bj4a64SUBpYGCcbsMrXHuTvICsRfvu7i+ljMU4IZ3yK7ISSazkuB2pTggoWfRF2PH/eywlu/9NYPTXmm9I5xZmBCDzP23LL7UtUhJm/xTzmLq5P0GokP7c+6/qIBlo7dMxoJ5vt02EAlGbtzdVBgvg8zt37tY= X-Received: by 10.28.96.4 with SMTP id u4mr20765003wmb.52.1448289841670; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.165.44.24] ([2.54.17.220]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u205sm13482539wmb.12.2015.11.23.06.43.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 23 Nov 2015 06:44:00 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (13B143) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:43:57 +0100 Cc: Joe Watkins , Julien Pauli , Rasmus Lerdorf , Derick Rethans , Phil Sturgeon , Xinchen Hui , Anatol Belski , PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <62A85FD6-9BF2-44FD-96B4-5226510BA5D5@zend.com> References: <112FFBCD-8445-40BC-B92F-3A97D3E97C4C@zend.com> <56523F74.9040708@lerdorf.com> <06a601d125c0$99d5cfd0$cd816f70$@belski.net> <5652D782.40601@lerdorf.com> <14D843AC-792B-4537-8859-023B98127E7D@zend.com> To: Anthony Ferrara Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] INDRECT in arrays causes count() to become unpredictable From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > On 23 =D7=91=D7=A0=D7=95=D7=91=D7=B3 2015, at 15:21, Anthony Ferrara wrote: >=20 > Zeev and all, >=20 >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>=20 >> No, but both the seriousness of the bug AND the simplicity of the fix sit= squarely outside any sort of "critical" definition. >=20 > Perhaps, except that this bug was known by engine maintainers for > months. It actually took one of them saying it outright in a chat room > for me to be like "WTFBBQ" and raising this thread. A conspiracy to hide a not-very-important bug that took minutes to fix would= be a bit awkward. I have no idea who knew about it, but even if someone di= d, I can only imagine that the reason it wasn't disclosed was that they didn= 't think much of it. Whomever it was can shed light on this. Either way, looks like we're creating some really negative vibes, questionin= g the very people who we owe gratitude for creating PHP 7, and in general, m= aking an elephant out of a mouse. Let's go back to elePHPants. My 2c. Zeev >=20