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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 11:17:03 +0100
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To: Derick Rethans <derick@php.net>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] INDRECT in arrays causes count() to become unpredictable
From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)

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On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:35, Derick Rethans <derick@php.net> wrote:
>=20
>> On November 23, 2015 10:08:18 AM GMT+01:00, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdor=
f.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2015 09:49 AM, Phil Sturgeon wrote:
>>> The "There will always be bugs" argument is a strawman, nobody is
>>> saying wait until it's perfect.
>>>=20
>>> People in this thread are consistently conflating "there will always
>>> be bugs" with "lets just ignore this bug which is 'around critical'
>>> and crack on because yolo."
>>=20
>> You seem to be confused Phil. Nobody is arguing that this bug shouldn't
>> be fixed. The question is all about how severe it is and whether it
>> should trigger another release candidate.
>=20
> Do I understand that you'd like to release 7.0.0 as 7.0.0RC7 + the count f=
ix on Thursday?=20

Yes

> I don't think we should push out 7.0.0 without the count fix, but I also d=
on't think it warrants another RC.=20
>=20
> If people think it needs another RC, then perhaps do one on Thu 26th with j=
ust RCA+ count fix, plus final on Thu Dec 3rd?=20

I am ok with either. I don't think the count fix is destabilizing enough to w=
arrant another RC. The fix seems simple and localized to me, but either peop=
le are confused, or they genuinely feel strongly enough that this is indicat=
ive of further problems and another RC will provide us with more time to fin=
d similar issues or perhaps just give everyone a sense of confidence in the r=
elease.

There is also the fact that a lot of us are in Paris this week and and at le=
ast some of us will be in transit on the 26th so a one-week delay might be a=
 good idea for that reason alone.

-Rasmus=

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