Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89314 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 21578 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2015 08:49:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Nov 2015 08:49:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pjsturgeon@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pjsturgeon@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pjsturgeon@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.172 mail-lb0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.172] ([209.85.217.172:36531] helo=mail-lb0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FD/43-01565-123D2565 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 03:49:38 -0500 Received: by lbblt2 with SMTP id lt2so91942524lbb.3 for ; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:49:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lW7UahUmiXKaLKayidGfj1qeDI39f5bp+HdIhrT0FVU=; b=OKvG8Ed23ereX4wc+cAZ6Q8wIVVI1mexrh9UfSWCaRusQWClLQ4hsWD0kR0Tere//V 5wwCvd3esoWvfCwSWfrU2wfwkN5NFU2okahL3uLz+EMJ2kcj+C0VpSBfrkcyGj7Yf7+T 0TpcEtr4orDJlgX3nEfm6AS05gBVJ4noq7sbnZDGDfSV9elvxS8AtAHeun+dMnBja6Bl yJ74AA00aBlqhJIxLDUzurD5m65b4Pb5WqDLPZ0CjE59f803AwAfsNole39+Q2x6rWkD jPHkPsVIjtQ2aSxnwZQ+UWdmhAf4e3/aPrutv8m1D/LYGHF/Ne+Po+OM5gtPzsoeazLz 162g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.51.52 with SMTP id h20mr10342145lbo.110.1448268574643; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.31.141 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 00:49:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <112FFBCD-8445-40BC-B92F-3A97D3E97C4C@zend.com> <56523F74.9040708@lerdorf.com> <06a601d125c0$99d5cfd0$cd816f70$@belski.net> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2015 22:49:34 -1000 Message-ID: To: Xinchen Hui Cc: Joe Watkins , Anatol Belski , Rasmus Lerdorf , Anthony Ferrara , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] INDRECT in arrays causes count() to become unpredictable From: pjsturgeon@gmail.com (Phil Sturgeon) On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Xinchen Hui wrote: > Hey: > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Joe Watkins wrote: > >> Morning Anatol, >> >> > People that don't test RC won't start to test any later RC anyway. >> >> This wasn't reported by "people", this was found by one of us. >> >> The problem isn't only that we have a bug in symbol tables, the problem is >> that the bug was found so very late in the process. >> >> We cannot reasonably have confidence that no other such bugs exist. > > There will always be bugs. that's why we will have 7.0.1, 7.0.2 , the > problem is, wether the bug is serious, does it affects normal usage. we > will try our best to avoid such bugs before release, but we should not > freeze our release roadmap to wait them raise up.. > > for this one, I don't see how serious it is. so I may consider it as a > general bug. > > thanks > >> > > >> I think it doesn't make sense to push forward with the current release time >> table now. I think it makes sense to do another RC and give *us* a little >> bit longer to test. >> >> Please reconsider. >> >> Cheers >> Joe > > > > -- > Xinchen Hui > @Laruence > http://www.laruence.com/ The "There will always be bugs" argument is a strawman, nobody is saying wait until it's perfect. People in this thread are consistently conflating "there will always be bugs" with "lets just ignore this bug which is 'around critical' and crack on because yolo."