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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date
From: anatol.php@belski.net ("Anatol Belski")



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:rasmus@lerdorf.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 1:50 AM
> To: David Zuelke <dz@heroku.com>; Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com>
> Cc: Anatol Belski <anatol.php@belski.net>; Stanislav Malyshev
> <smalyshev@gmail.com>; internals@lists.php.net; Kalle Sommer Nielsen
> <kalle@php.net>; Ferenc Kovacs <tyrael@php.net>
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date
> 
> On 11/09/2015 04:20 PM, David Zuelke wrote:
> > November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either
> >
> > a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible
> > e-commerce site, or
> > b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their customers are busy with a)
> >
> > At least at Heroku we have a blackout policy around Thanksgiving and
> Christmas for platform changes, and I'd imagine other hosting platforms do
as
> well.
> >
> > So maybe either Tuesday, or even better, Thursday, since that's release
day
> anyway.
> 
> Let's be realistic. This is not a critical security fix for production
servers. This is a
> .0.0 release. For developers this marks the point where they need to start
> making upgrade plans if they haven't already. I realize for Heroku and the
few
> similar cloud computing services out there it might be slightly different
in that
> you want to be quick to provide the first golden PHP 7 to your customers.
> 
> My only concern with the timing is whether we are adding undue
inconvenience
> to our RM team and all the other folks on our side that are affected by a
release.
> 
Probably targeting 26th were indeed inconvenient for the colleges in USA who
test and build. Though as far as I was asking around, it were still doable.
But if there'll be a decision we can't hold our 2-weeks cycle, IMHO Julien's
suggestion about 3rd December were feasible (as exception for 7.0.0 only).
Ferenc, Kalle and me believe also, that we will see more on the factual
matter after having RC7 outdoors for some time.

Regards

Anatol