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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 01:20:31 +0100
Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>,
 Anatol Belski <anatol.php@belski.net>,
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To: Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date
From: dz@heroku.com (David Zuelke)

November 30 is Cyber Monday, where people are either

a) focused on maxing out their credit cards on every possible e-commerce =
site, or
b) unable to roll out PHP 7 because their customers are busy with a)

At least at Heroku we have a blackout policy around Thanksgiving and =
Christmas for platform changes, and I'd imagine other hosting platforms =
do as well.

So maybe either Tuesday, or even better, Thursday, since that's release =
day anyway.


> On 09.11.2015, at 20:50, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com> wrote:
>=20
>> On Nov 8, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> =
wrote:
>>=20
>> On 11/08/2015 05:16 PM, Anatol Belski wrote:
>>> Exactly, the relevant patches are going into RC7 which is then out =
on 12th
>>> instead of GA. The next closest release slot were then Nov 26th, =
either for
>>> GA or for RC8 (but better not try to predict). If it stands good, we =
might
>>> have no reason to wait until the Mrs. Lovelace birthday party :)
>>=20
>> We should try really hard to get it out on the 26th. Once we get into
>> December people start to disappear. Nov.26 is American Thanksgiving
>> though, but I don't think that should interfere.
>=20
> I think thanksgiving is not a great time to releasing something so =
significant. Most folks in the US are on time off and you won=92t get as =
much interest.
>=20
> If we do need to postpone I=92d aim for Nov 30th or Dec 1st then. My =
experience is that as long as you=92re in the first two weeks of =
December you still get people. After the 14th you slow down=85.
>=20
> I know we are open-source and release when it=92s ready but I think =
for such a huge deal it is worth waiting three more working days.=20
>=20
> Btw, do we want to do something special on php.net <http://php.net/>? =
Front page?  Not the sexiest site as-is so maybe gives us an excuse to =
spice up the front page?
>=20
> Just my 2 cents.
> Andi