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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date
From: anatol.php@belski.net ("Anatol Belski")



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zeev Suraski [mailto:zeev@zend.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2015 8:57 PM
> To: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>; Anatol Belski
> <anatol.php@belski.net>; internals@lists.php.net
> Cc: Kalle Sommer Nielsen <kalle@php.net>; Ferenc Kovacs =
<tyrael@php.net>
> Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:rasmus@lerdorf.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 9:49 PM
> > To: Anatol Belski; internals@lists.php.net
> > Cc: 'Kalle Sommer Nielsen'; 'Ferenc Kovacs'
> > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date
> >
> > On 11/08/2015 11:15 AM, Anatol Belski wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > After doing the last evaluations in the RMs circle before going =
for
> > > 7.0.0 RTM preparations, we came to the conclusion that the current
> > > state does not look reasonable to be packaged as the final =
release.
> > >
> > > The RCs before RC6 was looking acceptable, which gave the reason =
to
> > > announce the planned RTM date on Nov 12th as final. From the =
todays
> > > perspective, the most of the issues discovered and fixed since RC6
> > > are still minor by themselves - 7 crashes (bug #70805 rather
> > > critical), and 3 functionality regressions. However, given the
> > > amount and the combination of them altogether, the state is in our
> > > opinion unsuitable for starting the life cycle of the next major.
> > >
> > > Thus, resuming the pre-release cycle seems in our opinion the =
right
> > > thing to do ATM. Hence this writing to inform the community about
> > > the intention and to gather the opinions. PHP 7 is still going =
down
> > > the home stretch and is very close to the finish, the next RC can =
be
> > > well the last. Though we'd better ensuring the quality as many =
times
> > > as needed before, instead of casually disservicing the consumers.
> >
> > This is the right decision. The whole point of the RC cycle is to
> identify crash
> > bugs like 70805. It would have been great if we had caught it =
earlier,
> but we
> > still caught and fixed it before the release and hopefully we can
> > still
> get the
> > final release out in November.
>=20
> Thumbs up from me as well (incl. trying to get it out the door in =
November if
> possible).
>=20
Thanks for the opinions and support. That means we're having the RC7 =
this week and look forward to the final. Back to the work then :)

Regards

Anatol