Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89112 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71687 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2015 01:32:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Nov 2015 01:32:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=scott@paragonie.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=scott@paragonie.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain paragonie.com from 209.85.217.171 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: scott@paragonie.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.171 mail-lb0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.171] ([209.85.217.171:36059] helo=mail-lb0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 05/8E-06223-BA7FF365 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 20:32:28 -0500 Received: by lbblt2 with SMTP id lt2so69785161lbb.3 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:32:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=paragonie_com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4clf2Ov1qKEU25dehMfH3XaoMEDjPZaKidi/ohbED0s=; b=jyWnQ/z9qpv6nzDefawY7pl8w8KADZtoj0dDuAh5srs2pPzUXGDBZvPht2wZ0BCb0F DG/3OpUZenQASJNdsg8J6O8MExAgbK8umhw4I4rxLtcQzYYrgocJpWPsFNmiFG7M7hyz feQDC1XBgppNQjs+e2VAGgeamYHmy9vd2KrCnXJ76a4/JKRN8WAN/NC9bwe7J4HbJRPM o2hl+uXqPWDu7kdMnXiTQVrHYevl4thtX5z+vF0jashIsQv6n3ChHtLepwhERvAJBJLa uohWsg+ZfGSF8ksRub8RywScHmn4ZEsAyd+rs/UmY6e+UoOXMTlJIBtq+w11ZkuSwqZH wdfw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4clf2Ov1qKEU25dehMfH3XaoMEDjPZaKidi/ohbED0s=; b=P/GoY2PG7ZvKOaMq+Qeb/t/wfsYmNnXlQhLyUgutEbfOUclW3RrTgCdzPe/gFm0Vjh v/socYf1SunZuaN+D6Op+cpxrhHfY1x0XedvE1wCf5mSmHjdvdTXROgONnDaz68jB5rT a3q7eLHCrRfqMbAC9DsFzeXfRzIibTixyYzSCJDNJe+YY1ggYmVUr8j7I8Wt4Lb2VB/N y79P2XQ/N8eOT9NFxala/fAd2v1xmUtsq2jbOoNxtY+hJbyghU7zy/C6t0ClfyOiop48 N3Qhn/M5Kxm720aB4tu+q1MH9sH6V/nIfuqoMcydRzajkB0Txo8rEOxrN7S+SMG55exi +H5w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlsW2eEn81GKzdoiQbtXdfW0KezTAjeiLflvb0ButOzeZ/j80RLeIX9NJbPIolfo4SnI+dn MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.11.163 with SMTP id r3mr12346700lbb.8.1447032744588; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 17:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.216.69 with HTTP; Sun, 8 Nov 2015 17:32:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <563FA736.2030200@lerdorf.com> References: <01a501d11a59$d1cba210$7562e630$@belski.net> <563FA736.2030200@lerdorf.com> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 20:32:24 -0500 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Anatol Belski , PHP Internals , Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Ferenc Kovacs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3c706b8506a0524119085 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date From: scott@paragonie.com (Scott Arciszewski) --001a11c3c706b8506a0524119085 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 As much as I had been looking forward to it soon, haste does makes waste. Making a more responsible choice for the users is commendable and outweighs the inconvenience a mere two week delay. +1 from me. Scott Arciszewski Chief Development Officer Paragon Initiative Enterprises On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > On 11/08/2015 11:15 AM, Anatol Belski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After doing the last evaluations in the RMs circle before going for 7.0.0 > > RTM preparations, we came to the conclusion that the current state does > not > > look reasonable to be packaged as the final release. > > > > The RCs before RC6 was looking acceptable, which gave the reason to > announce > > the planned RTM date on Nov 12th as final. From the todays perspective, > the > > most of the issues discovered and fixed since RC6 are still minor by > > themselves - 7 crashes (bug #70805 rather critical), and 3 functionality > > regressions. However, given the amount and the combination of them > > altogether, the state is in our opinion unsuitable for starting the life > > cycle of the next major. > > > > Thus, resuming the pre-release cycle seems in our opinion the right > thing to > > do ATM. Hence this writing to inform the community about the intention > and > > to gather the opinions. PHP 7 is still going down the home stretch and is > > very close to the finish, the next RC can be well the last. Though we'd > > better ensuring the quality as many times as needed before, instead of > > casually disservicing the consumers. > > This is the right decision. The whole point of the RC cycle is to > identify crash bugs like 70805. It would have been great if we had > caught it earlier, but we still caught and fixed it before the release > and hopefully we can still get the final release out in November. > > -Rasmus > > --001a11c3c706b8506a0524119085--