Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:89103 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39373 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2015 19:57:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Nov 2015 19:57:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.160.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.181 mail-yk0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.181] ([209.85.160.181:33686] helo=mail-yk0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 14/9A-06223-019AF365 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 14:57:05 -0500 Received: by ykdv3 with SMTP id v3so145629820ykd.0 for ; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zend_com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:thread-index:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=IzGEHkGrBl9Ymw74YnYlIvn5Q7ph9+mlTNUka2IcLc4=; b=jsGzq4PQg+U1RWzYXyQN2VGEYjnJTBgIJsHATgaGHXx0k1hqzB+ZFBNxXKcl5rWKl6 bDQTAiZsczjt450/r3PnJWl9CrGWE6bVRikKVv8jQpR7ZTbqpJZhYqDUpcwJjQxEwvtn FBrVyRMcHjcK+7nnkRxhwLVsbFjzDhWSAtHuhImXWtl6iCKptZFsgddhQGkLRKuOThXz Hcz1Oh4WQOpjJm+bjyWeg2fpx952QtSwPN/U7r3DP4csA31uvYg/qx5UMKUkZlFWk1m1 UKHqTJZx7tRZOY2iNVdZQnEg07HHRy8iLV1Thf5sJA1FNTMo23Ynmcst0FhRcCwEa/oN 091w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=IzGEHkGrBl9Ymw74YnYlIvn5Q7ph9+mlTNUka2IcLc4=; b=KO7O/kh8b0/LYBjl3lBxxiYv/5ofVcCo0J3Af6kfbbxiRYVAp9Rou1Hcrfm+kh+opN HKCo8JZvCBi0Z7Y1LrsQpFu3190vR7B7TpC7R8stx8TQe810wRvHfosJdkvUq/ykICgG qQuzUXyVHzZD4MzMfuKzQa7XvAsf8IXgpnQUPgU+SgNoj2huvGkpgU6Xe+ug7IGsXIVL IrhnT5q9YzkNp2ep8P6c3EitINK3f6qG/KT3zsraH/g4FX0s74HL+88fNbHfmd3+MxWy hXamqJV2b+fTy2ozizz8L9Vei1Hok9+EWdptJ7HiTvIX8A6KK3eyW4oO2Mad56jEmzqt YGJw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk9Nx4u8wcAUeemiuCerQ2F9Q9NeGoI8+vpCF6wbQoc45LM8PfUVvQ3kMgKOLCGXw9GUBxWyKo+IzmWGEbPoAcuT1Mv+DcwDiwwV4064CllMJXTD7yMxjT71tGiavl2HtQ2fcvs8GBS5u8EdbjmaZ1dShJM5+KeYfx2rtS0KIL4wCFMnHQ= X-Received: by 10.129.135.194 with SMTP id x185mr16511226ywf.25.1447012621751; Sun, 08 Nov 2015 11:57:01 -0800 (PST) References: <01a501d11a59$d1cba210$7562e630$@belski.net> <563FA736.2030200@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: <563FA736.2030200@lerdorf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKIisGGB7Qzv3SD6dj69sftSiI2qQK52J5LnQ3awBA= Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 21:57:00 +0200 Message-ID: <0d6eeecb24469383eff6ac692658953f@mail.gmail.com> To: Rasmus Lerdorf , Anatol Belski , internals@lists.php.net Cc: Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Ferenc Kovacs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:rasmus@lerdorf.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2015 9:49 PM > To: Anatol Belski; internals@lists.php.net > Cc: 'Kalle Sommer Nielsen'; 'Ferenc Kovacs' > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7 RTM date > > On 11/08/2015 11:15 AM, Anatol Belski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After doing the last evaluations in the RMs circle before going for > > 7.0.0 RTM preparations, we came to the conclusion that the current > > state does not look reasonable to be packaged as the final release. > > > > The RCs before RC6 was looking acceptable, which gave the reason to > > announce the planned RTM date on Nov 12th as final. From the todays > > perspective, the most of the issues discovered and fixed since RC6 are > > still minor by themselves - 7 crashes (bug #70805 rather critical), > > and 3 functionality regressions. However, given the amount and the > > combination of them altogether, the state is in our opinion unsuitable > > for starting the life cycle of the next major. > > > > Thus, resuming the pre-release cycle seems in our opinion the right > > thing to do ATM. Hence this writing to inform the community about the > > intention and to gather the opinions. PHP 7 is still going down the > > home stretch and is very close to the finish, the next RC can be well > > the last. Though we'd better ensuring the quality as many times as > > needed before, instead of casually disservicing the consumers. > > This is the right decision. The whole point of the RC cycle is to identify crash > bugs like 70805. It would have been great if we had caught it earlier, but we > still caught and fixed it before the release and hopefully we can still get the > final release out in November. Thumbs up from me as well (incl. trying to get it out the door in November if possible). Zeev