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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 14:56:26 -0300
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Rogue Wave Software acquires enterprise PHP leader Zend
From: ceceldada@gmail.com (Marcel Araujo)

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PHP won't die!

http://ctankersley.com/2015/10/06/zends-acquisition-doesnt-matter/

PHP, and the Zend Engine, currently follow the PHP License. There's a line
> at the top though that has people worried:
> Copyright (c) 1999-2006 Zend Technologies Ltd. All rights reserved.
> Zend holds the copyright to the Zend Engine, and thus the ability to set
> the license on the Zend Engine. What's the Zend Engine? It's the thing that
> makes PHP... well, PHP. It turns our written code into something servers
> understand, and makes things work. The only major player that compares to
> it is HHVM (yes, there are others, but HHVM is the only one I've seen with
> real traction).
> So, as copyright holder, Zend/RogueWave is well within their rights to
> change the license to something more permissive, or lock it down. It is
> their choice.
> If they do decide to do that, they can't change it retroactively. The PHP
> Community as a whole can continue to use previous versions of the Zend
> Engine, as long as they continue to follow the PHP License, and ignore the
> "new" Zend Engine. Life would find a way.
> There's precedent for that in fact, as when Zend suddenly showed up with
> phpng, there was some talk about not using it. We're a fickle group, and
> PHP internals could, and would, move away from the Zend Engine if needed.
> We'd also gladly continue to use older versions of Zend Engine before the
> license change.
> Worse case, we're all switching to HHVM and we have a few minor bugs to
> figure out.




On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 2:42 PM, David Zuelke <dz@heroku.com> wrote:

> On 06.10.2015, at 19:28, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The license cannot be changed without approvals of every contributor
> > to date. I very much doubt they will. And to make that point clear for
> > me, if they do and come with anything but the PHP license, I can
> > already say that I won't accept it.
>
> First, a license change may be necessary from their side in case "Zend
> Technologies Ltd" ceases to exist.
>
> Second, never say never. The PHP and Zend licenses are just BSD licenses
> with a few more or less irrelevant (to the code, the project, and its
> future) additional sections about the use of the word "PHP" in product
> names and that you must under no circumstance feed an Elephpant spinach on
> the last Friday of the month or something like that.
>
> So a switch to "pure" BSD, for example, probably wouldn't be a big deal,
> even to you, would it?
>
> David
>
>
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