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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 19:42:07 +0200
Cc: Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@gmail.com>,
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Rogue Wave Software acquires enterprise PHP leader Zend
From: dz@heroku.com (David Zuelke)

On 06.10.2015, at 19:28, Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com> wrote:

> The license cannot be changed without approvals of every contributor
> to date. I very much doubt they will. And to make that point clear for
> me, if they do and come with anything but the PHP license, I can
> already say that I won't accept it.

First, a license change may be necessary from their side in case "Zend =
Technologies Ltd" ceases to exist.

Second, never say never. The PHP and Zend licenses are just BSD licenses =
with a few more or less irrelevant (to the code, the project, and its =
future) additional sections about the use of the word "PHP" in product =
names and that you must under no circumstance feed an Elephpant spinach =
on the last Friday of the month or something like that.

So a switch to "pure" BSD, for example, probably wouldn't be a big deal, =
even to you, would it?

David