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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Arrow function expressions in PHP
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

Levi Morrison wrote on 01/10/2015 18:40:
>> Or we can figure out some other such symbol. Worse casing no white space,
>> brain storming:
> Please, I already asked people to stop making suggestions for shorter
> syntax for `use()`.

I tried to move the discussion to whether or not auto-capturing 
variables is a good idea, regardless of syntax, but the responses 
continue to be of the form "but that particular example syntax looks a 
bit ugly".

So I agree, let's not discuss the details of ANY syntax, until we've 
come to some conclusion on whether or not auto-capture is a negotiable 
feature.


> Again, if use() is a pain then auto-importing the
> used variables is a good solution. If it's not a pain why are you
> suggesting new syntax?

I thought I'd answered this already - because some people dislike the 
*verbosity* of "use" (and of the syntax in general) but are happy with 
the *functionality*. You are assuming that "I think the current syntax 
is verbose" is synonymous with "I think having to list captured 
variables is annoying", but there are people who do not take that position.

Regards,
-- 
Rowan Collins