Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:88386 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60892 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2015 16:10:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Sep 2015 16:10:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.214 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.214 mail4-2.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.214] ([217.147.176.214:43115] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 18/82-27297-47ADEF55 for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2015 12:10:29 -0400 Received: (qmail 3951 invoked by uid 89); 20 Sep 2015 16:10:25 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 3920, pid: 3940, t: 0.4586s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.8?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@86.160.91.166) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 20 Sep 2015 16:10:25 -0000 To: Rowan Collins , internals@lists.php.net References: <55FB4969.7080600@gmail.com> <55FB5BA6.6050606@lsces.co.uk> <55FBF265.5000502@gmail.com> <55FBF7B7.4050603@lsces.co.uk> <55FC1A77.7090406@gmail.com> <55FC221A.7020108@lsces.co.uk> <55FC2588.6030809@gmail.com> <55FC2B17.3070909@lsces.co.uk> <55FC2F2F.9060403@gmail.com> <55FC33F1.3090903@lsces.co.uk> <55FC354B.5070209@gmail.com> <55FC39B2.5070005@lsces.co.uk> <55FC45C7.9010202@gmail.com> <55FC4991.1050903@lsces.co.uk> <7872E9F4-AE19-4681-B2EF-215751AE4CBE@thesba.com> <55FC5A14.8020301@gmail.com> <55FC8D53.3080904@lsces.co.uk> <93020C79-3920-4FC8-8B6B-F1D16C6C709C@gmail.com> <55FD7613.1080403@lsces.co.uk> <9B86E351-089D-4356-BC8A-F683BA31D1A8@gmail.com> <55FDD71F.6070101@lsces.co.uk> <55FDDA0E.3050003@gmail.com> <55FDEFEC.80101@lsces.co.uk> <0CCD2508-4F6A-4C49-B833-892B8B87F6BE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55FEDA6F.4040600@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 17:10:23 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0CCD2508-4F6A-4C49-B833-892B8B87F6BE@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.1 - Address PHPSadness #28? From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 20/09/15 15:05, Rowan Collins wrote: > is_null returns true in all the same situations as isset does. There is absolutely no difference except for whether it raises a notice. ? is_null returns true when isset returns false ... but because of the notice and switching that off to hide it I'd missed that the pigging is_null() was broken. It's only not outputting the missing elements because they are non-existent, not because is_null() stops the function being called ... This is simply a red flag to why there NEEDS to be a proper fix rather than having to rely on switching off notices which result in other problems being masked! But I suppose code that is several years old does not matter ... we just live with the bugs. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk