Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:88184 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43889 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2015 16:07:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Sep 2015 16:07:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.171 mail-wi0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.171] ([209.85.212.171:38727] helo=mail-wi0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BA/51-30633-4B0F6F55 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 12:07:18 -0400 Received: by wiclk2 with SMTP id lk2so139636934wic.1 for ; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:to:references:cc:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mUeuI+xYni5nXj1TS843FSNZ7jTct9nsOCJ/CEewIJo=; b=VM+FzCs5JFMEfkOd/eoDgXAx6o4wLfsrgEs7klON3Twf2LJ4UG/kjTG5A4/rh78WsA Wtii7fOQ7khCf6HY9BXTAYWiwhF85+lbz7/QX5/D/Mmdzm+UCcRYWVmXg5D7bcNFU/Iz fnmp/DjKGNwp0MpN66weKJrIWTFTvDThlCT80qmCwleN0vKatWcoEyRvd1t5Pn3YEDg1 0HHYUoIZ2KGkZcFunTl+25sWD5xK6dxpds7VxRRh94m/y7z+pcwGFafNKwdPdZsMEiPo pXDzR9KBJj4YbosnztyWyTjAUV/00ujPjDbv6yL9cTr8ujGGCd/Z6qyagchbGf5Wo5TR A7fw== X-Received: by 10.180.99.66 with SMTP id eo2mr28166383wib.88.1442246833336; Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.127] ([62.189.198.114]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id p20sm15093978wie.5.2015.09.14.09.07.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Sep 2015 09:07:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Craig Francis References: <55DD4269.4090402@gmail.com> <6348DFA7-04BD-41BB-A500-17A8A531B56C@craigfrancis.co.uk> <55DDA4C9.9040603@gmail.com> <3C69BF4B-52E6-4D04-8601-8D23DFCC538E@craigfrancis.co.uk> <55DDD60F.5090509@gmail.com> <8C74463E-DBA2-4015-8159-0B44D973387F@craigfrancis.co.uk> <55DE0907.6040904@gmail.com> <1F615BCD-1B9B-4C51-A210-869F1AA1F6E3@craigfrancis.co.uk> <55E5EBBF.6020803@gmail.com> <0BA3A129-D356-4781-B6DE-E2B5A7924AE2@craigfrancis.co.uk> <55E6EC36.6090301@gmail.com> <9AF329EC-99A5-412D-A52B-432627A5520F@gmail.com> <6F4D91EE-B56E-4B83-B1AF-598C3F6897FC@craigfrancis.co.uk> <55F07BA4.2000204@gmail.com> <55F6B911.9080400@gmail.com> <96BE7F01-D04B-483B-B1A3-B45CED6DFCDC@craigfrancis.co.uk> Cc: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <55F6F08C.1020506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2015 17:06:36 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <96BE7F01-D04B-483B-B1A3-B45CED6DFCDC@craigfrancis.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 7.1 - Address PHPSadness #28? From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Craig Francis wrote on 14/09/2015 16:57: > Hi Rowan, > > I think I've said everything I can from my point of view (and my understanding of how other developers see and use the isset function). > > And that's not to say I disagree with what your saying Rowan, I'm just voicing my view that I think a language with exists() would be nicer than the slightly messy isset()... but each to their own. > > Maybe Scott (who proposed the idea) might follow up with more information? > > Otherwise I'm off on holiday, see you in a few weeks :-) Yes, I think we're going round in circles at this point, and should see if anyone else has an opinion that would move the discussion forward. Have a nice holiday! :) Regards, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]