Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:88098 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26676 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2015 15:58:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Sep 2015 15:58:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pajousek@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pajousek@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pajousek@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.177 mail-io0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.177] ([209.85.223.177:33412] helo=mail-io0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 48/81-16471-F24BDE55 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2015 11:58:40 -0400 Received: by iofh134 with SMTP id h134so91969187iof.0 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2015 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=MjjMbvbF4nBEj6UzUyaSq4hNeAwzgLk+XNpY6nDS5v4=; b=t6xXp16EaB+r5avQd6oWdHgyALP7M8D48I+TbROPpFjzeb71HPnPIcRB5LL9PDQf80 znIWA/DMHUJaiugoIgUHfWHqYeFuWqiHJvQwp+bnyTCb8FLCDuqt0pA0e2FJ32F6osgE V8ZMv+S2kpxjlZvJBcgsLizrW4R6GvnQlCwWsS3cFZvGXmnzWS9Z7iBB0LMd0b6krTXQ SHCCm1wHVd6sE2hBX9D5EAF1bk3alUWcKQhx7iFgD0jCWRuGqCxHc91bGWrDQmQ8mnat 7U68sc52gXjyZ6ydE9H/yKovo8H6hoY2BujoWiiaZ7L3pXfOJipdDaYmB+ipjs5UIIsh 62pw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.170.37 with SMTP id t37mr29022168ioe.166.1441641517146; Mon, 07 Sep 2015 08:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.24.194 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Sep 2015 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <61.90.26858.306BCE55@pb1.pair.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 17:58:36 +0200 Message-ID: To: Marco Pivetta Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures From: pajousek@gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Pavel_Kou=C5=99il?=) On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Marco Pivetta wrote: > > The same usually applies to ~, {, }, [ and ]. > I personally stopped buying non-en_US keyboards and that's it. > Basically, if you code you kinda want to use en_US layout anyway (or dvorak > if you had too much free time). > I realize that this is unfriendly to beginners, but the ~ already is part of > the syntax of the language anyway. > > Marco Pivetta > Hi, I know this is a problem with more symbols that just ~, and can be really keyboard layout specific. That's why I didn't mean it as a "blocker" for the ~ symbol, but more like a thing to consider for the case the discussion would end up with deciding between ==> and ~> with no real "preference". I'm sorry if it did look differently. :) Personally, I don't have an issue with writing either of those variants and would be fine with either in the end (I can write ==> a little bit faster and comfortably - since I can write it with just one hand - but the difference is not THAT big), but I thought it's worth mentioning. PK