Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:88075 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62049 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2015 06:24:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Sep 2015 06:24:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ocramius@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ocramius@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ocramius@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.171 mail-wi0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.171] ([209.85.212.171:34470] helo=mail-wi0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A8/D2-40368-D9D2DE55 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2015 02:24:30 -0400 Received: by wicfx3 with SMTP id fx3so76430660wic.1 for ; Sun, 06 Sep 2015 23:24:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=e+89hzWcXzpiWYDnvN+vJwzzURNBz6aL25QToYxDmGA=; b=Z15bm+lJO7ew9qrWH9PKpOuu9VbGWrvffYrAIuWI20k4qFtkI2i+qzkKZcB/nXeTRd mmLcI6n11ZjLA/Shbz5/KdK326e29DtS+lMuSsTdrfrsCS65clbkR/4U09vsLHYeuehr wrqSeuE9zQ43lwf1ecskv2L9XjZ6AIsrfpMIXO/lYTtGg2YRzGkCvlATGgOUJyYdpLLF RAlOvtZpxVU5kceluc6ysFkUNG8ANRTO4eGwQrlKwCX39Q+hQJpgmzz4GCcnK2nm8gGT ziPtKR/5+eliXav2ePcIuqnJo5tILrT/s0O6x/WUCSvdujdJtTakPc75GWLtvaa2N3Kp q7ig== X-Received: by 10.180.106.3 with SMTP id gq3mr31397446wib.50.1441607067417; Sun, 06 Sep 2015 23:24:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.227.137 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Sep 2015 23:24:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <61.90.26858.306BCE55@pb1.pair.com> Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2015 07:24:07 +0100 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Pavel_Kou=C5=99il?= Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04428fe828c37e051f224dc5 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures From: ocramius@gmail.com (Marco Pivetta) --f46d04428fe828c37e051f224dc5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7 September 2015 at 06:33, Pavel Kou=C5=99il wrote: > Hello, > > these are all good points. > > Also, I realized it's definitely harder to write ~ than =3D. On my > keyboard layout (Czech Qwerty) I have to do "right alt + shift + (key > above Tab)". I'm not sure how it is with other non-US keyboard > layouts, but it might be worth exploring before deciding on a symbol; > or maybe there's a possibility that my keyboard layout is just an > anomaly and you can write ~ on most keyboard layouts with a single key > (or double). > > Regards > PK The same usually applies to ~, {, }, [ and ]. I personally stopped buying non-en_US keyboards and that's it. Basically, if you code you kinda want to use en_US layout anyway (or dvorak if you had too much free time). I realize that this is unfriendly to beginners, but the ~ already is part of the syntax of the language anyway. Marco Pivetta http://twitter.com/Ocramius http://ocramius.github.com/ --f46d04428fe828c37e051f224dc5--