Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:88037 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 23505 invoked from network); 3 Sep 2015 14:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 2015 14:46:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=fsb@thefsb.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=fsb@thefsb.org; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain thefsb.org designates 173.203.187.91 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: fsb@thefsb.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 173.203.187.91 smtp91.iad3a.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [173.203.187.91] ([173.203.187.91:43850] helo=smtp91.iad3a.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 80/E2-34192-C5D58E55 for ; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:46:53 -0400 Received: from smtp12.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp12.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C00483806AA; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:46:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp12.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: fsb-AT-thefsb.org) with ESMTPSA id D8B203806E2; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 10:46:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: fsb@thefsb.org Received: from [10.0.1.2] (c-73-4-147-142.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [73.4.147.142]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DES-CBC3-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:465 (trex/5.4.2); Thu, 03 Sep 2015 14:46:50 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.5.4.150722 Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:46:46 -0400 To: Rowan Collins CC: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Discussion] Short Closures From: fsb@thefsb.org (Tom Worster) On 9/2/15 5:34 PM, Rowan Collins wrote:> On 02/09/2015 20:44, Tom Worster wrote: >> In other words, ~> will end my career. Thanks :P > > I know this line is just hyperbole, but it does rather sum up the tone > of the rest of your e-mail. I'm honestly not sure how you expect anyone > to respond. The unspoken rules of civility make some people suppress negative reactions to the proposal. In this case it was even implied, as you point out, that dissenting opinion is unwelcome. But I don't think such constraints are entirely fair so I gave my opinion. In partial deference to decorum, I tried to dress it up in humor, making clear from the start that I am a grumpy old curmudgeon. As such, I'd be surprised if anyone would waste their time arguing with what I wrote and or risk their reputation by agreeing with me. So, to your point, I don't expect a response. > Scrolling further down, my eye lit on the last line of the e-mail you > replied to: > >> Hoping for constructive feedback, >> Bob > > That struck me as rather a contrast. Yes. And Bob's hope was realistic -- he got plenty. I expect he can take a bit of the other too. > PS I think you've muddled Stas with Anthony. Yes, looks like I did. I don't get email from this list, I read it via the news server in Thunderbird, and got thoroughly confused with its threading together with the inconsistent quoting and attribution. My apologies to Anthony. Tom