Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:87858 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31082 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2015 02:44:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Aug 2015 02:44:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ircmaxell@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ircmaxell@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ircmaxell@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.50 mail-la0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.50] ([209.85.215.50:34130] helo=mail-la0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 33/16-19109-DF1E7D55 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:44:14 -0400 Received: by laba3 with SMTP id a3so50991477lab.1 for ; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pZED75ZfSBkavbjRh7ZOIVWDiIvdWwR43E1aGcpqkSo=; b=tr2igXV+cHwL1QFDBMLc5ZxgZ1sGWx7Hikp2BJvF7Sc4Rea978QaCGJuO/ktvUNZSE jRMhtI6U9PwMEFt2YfcggmKGhuZg0DHQaltFPAz3WlPKaVz5/275oaYBA8zrzzHnw159 mmDlKg/SrRdlBjkjp5i2sfL7B0H3OE6YlLy5qjh8aawkhXx37H0FJ9mm6LcbnrtrTVzQ TE4KcoNnMLqr2ubdL47kk0LKjTDORY/003ULe1Hf6SwrWlpaHbG3onlwRo4epKxnXoCL oZpFEHEJVBMqlJoxqwv2NzlDQX3LAH95cOsqv6c+w8SQXKvetQ0zKhGzsm9A5voQcnv0 rTfQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.6.73 with SMTP id y9mr4926221lay.45.1440211450470; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.141.131 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.141.131 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Aug 2015 19:44:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <99CE9AAF-E6E9-4D37-B462-E4A63139EAFB@icicle.io> <03af01d0dc6e$fe3a20c0$faae6240$@belski.net> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 22:44:10 -0400 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Anatol Belski , Scott Arciszewski , Niklas Keller , Trevor Suarez , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01494220e8269e051ddd5be2 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Recap - Core functions throwing exceptions in PHP7 From: ircmaxell@gmail.com (Anthony Ferrara) --089e01494220e8269e051ddd5be2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Pierre On Aug 21, 2015 22:33, "Pierre Joye" wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > > > If that's what it will take I will happily draft one tomorrow morning. But > > if the RMs are against it, I will respect that as well. Hence the dilemma. > > For what I understand the RMs are not against what it is proposed but > its incompleteness and the fact that it affects the timeline for php > 7. > > The sooner will benefit from a RFC, making this whole discussion a lot > clearer. The latter is a requirement to change, even slightly, > anything about what we decided for php 7. The RMs role is to ensure we > respect what we decided by RFC, hence the oppositions. By convention, it is also to decide which rfcs are applicable for a specific release. I would like to respect that. If they say no, I won't waste time and energy on the rfc process as it will be pointless as it won't affect 7.0. If they say yes, then we can make it quick and as painless as possible and settle it once and for all. It bothers me though that it has to come down to this. But that's another discussion for another day. Anthony --089e01494220e8269e051ddd5be2--