Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:87588 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86375 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2015 22:35:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Aug 2015 22:35:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:58312] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C3/91-11948-69CEFB55 for ; Mon, 03 Aug 2015 18:35:04 -0400 Received: by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 346BA433E9; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:35:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on km31408.keymachine.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Received: from [192.168.2.34] (ppp-93-104-16-74.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.16.74]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 82CD5433E5; Tue, 4 Aug 2015 00:34:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1438641297.18995.8.camel@kuechenschabe> To: Stephen Coakley Cc: internals@lists.php.net Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:34:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5B.71.40707.C999EB55@pb1.pair.com> References: <1438544109.21459.7.camel@kuechenschabe> <5B.71.40707.C999EB55@pb1.pair.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Move internals discussion to a better medium From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 17:28 -0500, Stephen Coakley wrote: > On 08/02/2015 02:35 PM, Johannes Schlüter wrote: > > Step one: Get a proper mail client. In the mail you sent one can't see > > what's from you and what you actually just quoted. All is marked as > > quote. > > E-Mail is great. It is a push service and I as the receiver can handle > > as it matches my work flow. Applying custom filters, highlighters, have > > a threaded view or linear. I also have the discussion while offline > > while traveling etc. > > There aren't many other system which can handle this amount of > > participants and discussions in a good way, especially if we don'T want > > to have a lock in of our process on a specific vendor. Switching mailing > > list server, if there is any need, is trivial. > > > > johannes > > > > P.S. sorry or this bad full quote > > Um, forums work great for that. That's what they're designed for. That's > not what email is designed for, though it is capable of doing it (hence > mailing lists were invented). I haven't seen any forum where I can add highlighters of threads by keyword (not by searching, but in the regular view) or ignore parts of a thread while still following other parts or set reminders to show a mail again after some time (i.e. in my RM times I used that to highlight "important" threads before release to make sure they were solved) Also I've seen no forum which works offline. Mail is designed as an open standard for exchanging messages. Since the introduction of the In-Reply-To-Header (which probably comes from NTTP which was introduced in 1986) there are tons of tools to handle discussions as I as the recipient see need. With a web forum I'm always forced to the operator. Anyways I'm only repeating myself :-) johannes