Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:87531 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18274 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2015 19:39:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2015 19:39:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:53395] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 30/98-55344-E027EB55 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 15:39:58 -0400 Received: by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 1C8B4431B6; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 21:39:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on km31408.keymachine.de X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-HAM-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP Received: from [192.168.2.34] (ppp-93-104-2-14.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.2.14]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D3B4431B4; Sun, 2 Aug 2015 21:39:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <1438544391.21459.11.camel@kuechenschabe> To: Dor Tchizik Cc: Marcio Almada , PHP Internals Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:39:51 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-ucfNntXBkDbv30nAMGcO" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Move internals discussion to a better medium From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) --=-ucfNntXBkDbv30nAMGcO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2015-08-02 at 19:17 +0000, Dor Tchizik wrote: > Now, I get that the RFC process in PHP is different, but why is it that t= o > even GET on the mailing list one needs to go through seven hells, only to > be in the discussion (often completely irrelevant to what he's trying to > do) for several weeks or months, to get Karma, and only then may he submi= t > an RFC? Why can't someone just open an issue, and have an RFC up and read= y > the next day (or even the next week)? For one: He can. He can submit a pull request via github or FR in bugs.php.net. He can also send a mail to internals@ without subscribing. due to "Reply-to-all" he will be part of the discussion around it. But we want active contributors with an interest in the system. A programming language isn't developed by looking at items in separation but things interact with each other (yes, adding a library function here or there to PHP can be looked at in some isolation, most things however not) johannes --=-ucfNntXBkDbv30nAMGcO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAABAgAGBQJVvnIHAAoJEH3sTmn8nIPXYaYH/RyfS8e8uZ5dJg+yGio8iVUf cRwr+eaKNFn6vOUPZd8UtInaXQpy+Ngn1GEA81FnDvo4jfd6cZVFIaJm3QHNQf5P wJSeFdVHXBcrlse3X0X92377HGqLowFhu8gfx3GviG1rllYbqI4eQOIircFpmXXR InZYvECM81uG82l6iYR9tkFbIWuN5rRm7rX0PHyME3Xrzmz0QxtGir893K37JMQa tWg2ca1Spm1eCKVhDRtdYmdga/0KcPC9ygkPWp61FkKCL0qQBLVLypT8ruxWhywJ 5HtP588u2s/steVIUJ6C3SBnrTtCauYxm62iiYyWotEnXeoYXelD/bgdH+6Xtfc= =J0W0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ucfNntXBkDbv30nAMGcO--