Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:87515 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 59705 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2015 15:13:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2015 15:13:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.173 mail-wi0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.173] ([209.85.212.173:38088] helo=mail-wi0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 45/80-55344-8A33EB55 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 11:13:45 -0400 Received: by wibxm9 with SMTP id xm9so84976170wib.1 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:subject:from:date:to:cc :message-id; bh=P+vxmVt0wT4XVPH4QdBSpoiwm1E9B3ibZRph7QrjvNc=; b=iB95tZC9MFH1ddocIGEKnjmOeP/itVXDeqZCaUGh8k+abDqmXzvzguScinFgQdQfL/ 0/0iM6WOgQ8poDxcNr/Qfs3WttdgVwaPMoImNuyM/AK7DEDyxHxODqmXGZvbCokE2zeI RbuyjQjgg6c5Rd7Wv3VVs5qLsuavtEf0WJNXPkZ0TNWSbrMoA95C3V/mTLTrHiBzcNvl olRuVtnkEuQb4FMgYYLG+L+WKf6MsP+t1LXSoyxIlTvb1n627053ZwEtBubNn1wxBoYY /itF+AdfCVkByt5K/QYRMFRJI3+KYTwoISwHBaVbjBqkVg0CGFCV8NcXPqtQbjA3PpFl tsHQ== X-Received: by 10.194.184.232 with SMTP id ex8mr15932333wjc.42.1438528421920; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.6] (cpc68956-brig15-2-0-cust215.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [82.6.24.216]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id oy7sm17955192wjb.27.2015.08.02.08.13.40 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Aug 2015 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: References: <37DC5EF1-35B4-45A7-9065-5A7866336B06@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2015 15:36:07 +0100 To: Niklas Keller CC: PHP Internals Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Move internals discussion to a better medium From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 2 August 2015 15:26:00 BST, Niklas Keller wrote: >2015-08-02 15:29 GMT+02:00 Rowan Collins : > >> On 2 August 2015 13:54:46 BST, Niklas Keller wrote: >> >We're discussing issues here, so what's wrong with an issue tracker? >> >> No, we're discussing every aspect of the project, from release >management >> to personal introductions. > > >Release management, RFCs and other things totally fit something I'd >call >issue. See one of my other replies for more categories of content, which don't feel like a good fit for issues, which in my mind is for finite work flows like raise-discuss-assign-close... >Personal introductions are a valid point, they're nothing I'd do with >issues, that's something that fits here. [...] >TBH, it's not just about communication on the mailing list here. PHP's >bug >tracker is a real PITA, at least for users without a php.net account. So perhaps rather than replacing Internals, it's a question of finding a nicer issue tracker (fuller featured than either GitHub or bugs.php.net), making better use of it, and defining what things should be in it and what should stay in a more open discussion forum like this list?