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Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 16:26:00 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Move internals discussion to a better medium
From: me@kelunik.com (Niklas Keller)

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2015-08-02 15:29 GMT+02:00 Rowan Collins <rowan.collins@gmail.com>:

> On 2 August 2015 13:54:46 BST, Niklas Keller <me@kelunik.com> wrote:
> >We're discussing issues here, so what's wrong with an issue tracker?
>
> No, we're discussing every aspect of the project, from release  management
> to personal introductions.


Release management, RFCs and other things totally fit something I'd call
issue.
Personal introductions are a valid point, they're nothing I'd do with
issues, that's something that fits here.

>I can see more than one benefit. Probably most important is that you
> >can
> >follow just some things, instead of getting all the mails.
>
> I subscribe with a gmail account, filter the list into its own folder,
> then pick out the threads I'm interested in using Thunderbird or K9 Mail.
> Most of the time there are only about half a dozen active threads anyway.
>
> >Additionally, you
> >can ping people, that's not possible here, most mails are just "reply
> >all"
> >messages.
>
> I CC'd you on this message; how is that not "pinging' you? Actually, it's
> a bit *too* easy, as a lot of the time "Reply to All" is simpler than
> "Reply to List". Either way, that's a feature issue trackers have borrowed
> from forums rather than vice versa.


It's probably because GMail lacks a clear indication here. There is one,
but not eye-catching enough.
Having a lot of clients to choose from with different features can totally
be a advantage, because everyone can choose the one that he / she likes
best, but there are also disadvantages like a higher barrier for new users
or non-regular users.

TBH, it's not just about communication on the mailing list here. PHP's bug
tracker is a real PITA, at least for users without a php.net account.

How about a tool like Phabricator?

Regards, Niklas


> Regards,
> --
> Rowan Collins
> [IMSoP]
>
>

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