Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:87506 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32875 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2015 13:12:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Aug 2015 13:12:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.214 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.214 mail4-2.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.214] ([217.147.176.214:33597] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 6A/52-09373-6271EB55 for ; Sun, 02 Aug 2015 09:12:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 13425 invoked by uid 89); 2 Aug 2015 13:12:03 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 13418, pid: 13421, t: 0.1789s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.8?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.157.58.188) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 2 Aug 2015 13:12:03 -0000 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <0E784DFA-5BDD-42B6-9BCE-7746BDA4FCBE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <55BE1721.8000100@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2015 14:12:01 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0E784DFA-5BDD-42B6-9BCE-7746BDA4FCBE@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Move internals discussion to a better medium From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 02/08/15 13:52, Rowan Collins wrote: > As a final note, while encouraging new users is definitely a good thing, any project the size of PHP will always have a core set of developers who spend a lot of time working on and discussing it. If you make those people's lives difficult, no amount of shiny markdown is going to recover their lost effort, so any process change has to be carefully considered from that angle. My own mail archive of this list goes back to 2004 although I have previous messages in a less searchable format. What messes up that archive is mainly the poor quality of quoting resulting in substantial dross from the likes of top posters quoting all the previous sigs, but I strip those messages and am left with a nice historic record of developments. https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/msg79689.html provides a nice searchable version of the original raw messages and yes provides a downloadable set of older material. The mechanism itself is not broken, only the less than ideal following of the guidelines in using it. NONE of the 'on-line' alternatives still provide as good an alternative for on and off line working! So until the whole world has perfect 100% available high speed internet ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk